I’ve given a rough first answer with some things that made me update my model of the world to think that spies are powerful and coordinated enough to keep secrets, but not competent enough to keep them forever.
It’s important to read these in the context of history, which can give us good priors. For example, there is a long history of intelligence agencies intercepting letters and post. Based on this, we might think it likely that they would seek to build similar capabilities with more modern forms of messaging.
In a similar vein, it seems that if one country is interfering in elections, engaging in industrial espionage, or spreading misinformation, then many countries are probably doing it.
These leaked documents are only a sample of hidden behavior. For example, if the DHS has a revolving door with Twitter, and other social media companies have law enforcement portals beyond their legal requirements, then it’s safe to guess that most social media companies have a close relationship with their countries’ intelligence agencies. It’s just that they haven’t all suffered leaks.
For example, if the DHS has a revolving door with Twitter, and other social media companies have law enforcement portals beyond their legal requirements, then it’s safe to guess that most social media companies have a close relationship with their countries’ intelligence agencies.
The DHS is not an intelligence agency. The fact that there’s a lot of DHS-lead censorship in the Twitter files but not a lot of CIA-lead censorship could be an update against the CIA doing much of that.
One of the interesting aspects of that leak is that everything is so incredibly complex of who did what. There was a great talk about the Chaos Computer Congress called “Die Wahrheit und was wirklich passierte” (in English the truth and what really happened) and one of the points it makes is that one way to prevent things from being known to the public is simply to make them so complex that nobody will understand them. Having hundreds of institutions involved in the censorship industrial complex is one such thing.
It’s easy to just think “well it’s the intelligence agencies doing bad things” but the reality is about the complex interplay from a lot of institutions with funding from different sources. Funding comes from governments, companies, and billionaires.
There was a great talk about the Chaos Computer Congress called “Die Wahrheit und was wirklich passierte” (in English the truth and what really happened) and one of the points it makes is that one way to prevent things from being known to the public is simply to make them so complex that nobody will understand them. Having hundreds of institutions involved in the censorship industrial complex is one such thing.
I watched the film I think the real world is much more complicated. I remember Matt Taibbi saying that he counted 300 organizations in the Censorship Industrial Complex. Syriana has fewer agents than that.
You can’t make a movie telling a good story with 300 organizations and it’s also hard to write newspaper/substack articles about it.
I’ve given a rough first answer with some things that made me update my model of the world to think that spies are powerful and coordinated enough to keep secrets, but not competent enough to keep them forever.
Some specific learnings:
Spies hack their own oversight committee, but the committee is so powerless that it has to complain to the public rather than relying on official channels
Politician keep spreadsheets of donations vs government positions granted. For example $600,000 for the position of Ambassador to Austria is one of the larger donations
Intelligence agencies often ally with their countries large corporations to trade industrial espionage for intelligence
For example, the US spied on Petrobas the Brazilian oil company
Oil companies such as Shell wield significant influence in countries like Nigeria and ambassadors will seek Shell’s thoughts on things like coup probabilities
There seems to be a revolving door developing between social media and intelligence agencies
It’s important to read these in the context of history, which can give us good priors. For example, there is a long history of intelligence agencies intercepting letters and post. Based on this, we might think it likely that they would seek to build similar capabilities with more modern forms of messaging.
In a similar vein, it seems that if one country is interfering in elections, engaging in industrial espionage, or spreading misinformation, then many countries are probably doing it.
These leaked documents are only a sample of hidden behavior. For example, if the DHS has a revolving door with Twitter, and other social media companies have law enforcement portals beyond their legal requirements, then it’s safe to guess that most social media companies have a close relationship with their countries’ intelligence agencies. It’s just that they haven’t all suffered leaks.
The DHS is not an intelligence agency. The fact that there’s a lot of DHS-lead censorship in the Twitter files but not a lot of CIA-lead censorship could be an update against the CIA doing much of that.
One of the interesting aspects of that leak is that everything is so incredibly complex of who did what. There was a great talk about the Chaos Computer Congress called “Die Wahrheit und was wirklich passierte” (in English the truth and what really happened) and one of the points it makes is that one way to prevent things from being known to the public is simply to make them so complex that nobody will understand them. Having hundreds of institutions involved in the censorship industrial complex is one such thing.
It’s easy to just think “well it’s the intelligence agencies doing bad things” but the reality is about the complex interplay from a lot of institutions with funding from different sources. Funding comes from governments, companies, and billionaires.
This is basically the plot of Syriana.
I watched the film I think the real world is much more complicated. I remember Matt Taibbi saying that he counted 300 organizations in the Censorship Industrial Complex. Syriana has fewer agents than that.
You can’t make a movie telling a good story with 300 organizations and it’s also hard to write newspaper/substack articles about it.
Of course, but the primary theme of the movie is that no one has the full picture of what’s going on.