I opened up this dialogue by stating that there was a difference between rationality and instrumental rationality. Do you understand why this is relevant?
As to whether it is “established ideology” or not: “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
For goodness’ sake. “Established” as in “has already been described in detail”.
… Exactly what were you intending to communicate with this? Because I can assure you that right now the only readings I have available to me make it entirely non-sequiturous.
I simply thought your response indicated that you were not aware that “Rational behaviour is whatever makes you win” was a reference to an established ideology,
As to whether it is “established ideology” or not: “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
I thought it meant:
I simply thought your response indicated that you were not aware that “Rational behaviour is whatever makes you win” was a reference to a previously-described idea,
As to whether it is “a previously-described idea” or not: “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
I’m pretty sure you thought it meant:
I simply thought your response indicated that you were not aware that “Rational behaviour is whatever makes you win” was a reference to a sacred LW doctrine,
As to whether it is “sacred LW doctrine” or not: “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
The latter is a sufficiently valid statement. For what it’s worth, “ideology” is not a term that carries the meaning you were working with in “a previously-described idea”, so this should have been somewhat more obvious.
On a more important level: I don’t care about what Eliezer wrote there, in this thread, for a very simple reason: It’s not relevant to the discussion. Whether or not it’s been said before, or whether or not Eliezer is the one who said it, just doesn’t matter.
The latter is a sufficiently valid statement. For what it’s worth, “ideology” is not a term that carries the meaning you were working with in “a previously-described idea”, so this should have been somewhat more obvious.
You’re right, that was a bad choice of words. I apologize for the confusion.
I opened up this dialogue by stating that there was a difference between rationality and instrumental rationality. Do you understand why this is relevant?
… Exactly what were you intending to communicate with this? Because I can assure you that right now the only readings I have available to me make it entirely non-sequiturous.
We wrote:
I thought it meant:
I’m pretty sure you thought it meant:
The latter is a sufficiently valid statement. For what it’s worth, “ideology” is not a term that carries the meaning you were working with in “a previously-described idea”, so this should have been somewhat more obvious.
On a more important level: I don’t care about what Eliezer wrote there, in this thread, for a very simple reason: It’s not relevant to the discussion. Whether or not it’s been said before, or whether or not Eliezer is the one who said it, just doesn’t matter.
You’re right, that was a bad choice of words. I apologize for the confusion.