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For those who don’t know, the above user is a rising star in feminist, men’s rights, and that kind of circles. Or well, I’ve heard of him/her, and was surpised to see the name. So I’m stopping to comment.
I’d like to address some claims made about sexual fluidity that I find concerning.
Conversion therapy is primarily conducted by secular partners of religious organisations that were formed in protest of allegations of non-scientific approaches to LGBT psychiatry
Some individuals sexual identitites are indeed fluid, as conceeded by psychiatric authorities, however, it the common misconception is that they aren’t
However, defining sexualities as fluid is not neccersarily useful. There are well articulated (albeit unconvincing) teleological arguments suggesting that fluidity is essential to transition to homosexuality:
“There… was, as of 1995, essentially no research on the longitudinal stability of sexual orientation over the adult life span… It was… still an unanswered question whether...the measure of ‘the complex components of sexual orientation as differentiated from other aspects of sexual identity at one point in time’ will predict future behavior or orientation. Certainly, it is… not a good predictor of past behavior and self-identity, given the developmental process common to most gay men and lesbians (i.e., denial of homosexual interests and heterosexual experimentation prior to the coming-out process).
sexual identity as distinct from sexual orientation is treated as a seperate concept within the academic domains of sexual discourse
There are compelling arguments for activists to legitimise bisexuality:
Bisexuality can be a unifying force in the world. But we must avoid the mistakes of some of our lesbian sisters who profess sexual acceptance invalidate bisexuality as an orientation .If we claim self-definition for ourselves, then we must accord that right to others As a bisexual movement we can create a community where it is safe for everyone to comfortably express their sexuality. As well, a quote from collection of bisexual testimonials puts the issue poignantly “I very much resented the smugness of lesbians who said my evolution was incomplete Although I understand sexual politics, I could no sooner change my sexual orientation, nor would I want to, any more than a lesbian could
the concept of situational sexuality complicates things. How can one distinguish between an enduring aspect of their identity and a situational characteristic?
sexual fluidity may be underreported due to hate crimes against non heteronormative individuals and biphobia
My understanding is that people vary a lot as to how sexually fluid they are, and conversion therapy “works” on sexually fluid folks (albeit trivially, by getting them to change their overt behavior) but hurts those that are not. That’s why it’s criticized by the scientific community.
edit: goddam formatting doesn’t work with complex posts. PM me if you’re interested in reading this in full...
For those who don’t know, the above user is a rising star in feminist, men’s rights, and that kind of circles. Or well, I’ve heard of him/her, and was surpised to see the name. So I’m stopping to comment.
I’d like to address some claims made about sexual fluidity that I find concerning.
Conversion therapy is stigmatised by scientific communities
Conversion therapy is primarily conducted by secular partners of religious organisations that were formed in protest of allegations of non-scientific approaches to LGBT psychiatry Some individuals sexual identitites are indeed fluid, as conceeded by psychiatric authorities, however, it the common misconception is that they aren’t
However, defining sexualities as fluid is not neccersarily useful. There are well articulated (albeit unconvincing) teleological arguments suggesting that fluidity is essential to transition to homosexuality:
sexual fluidity is sensational
sexual identity as distinct from sexual orientation is treated as a seperate concept within the academic domains of sexual discourse
There are compelling arguments for activists to legitimise bisexuality:
the concept of situational sexuality complicates things. How can one distinguish between an enduring aspect of their identity and a situational characteristic?
sexual fluidity may be underreported due to hate crimes against non heteronormative individuals and biphobia
My understanding is that people vary a lot as to how sexually fluid they are, and conversion therapy “works” on sexually fluid folks (albeit trivially, by getting them to change their overt behavior) but hurts those that are not. That’s why it’s criticized by the scientific community.