Prescriptive appropriateness vs. descriptive appropriateness.
ESRogs is pointing out a valuable item in a civilizing peace treaty; an available weapon that, if left unused, allows a greater set of possible cooperations to come into existence. “Not appropriate” as a normative/hopeful statement, signaling his position as a signatory to that disarmament clause and one who hopes LW has already or will also sign on, as a subculture.
Zack is pointing out that, from the inside of a slur, it has precisely the purpose that ESRogs is labeling inappropriate. For a slur to express hostility and disregard is like a hammer being used to pound nails. “Entirely appropriate” as a descriptive/technical statement.
I think it would have been better if Zack had made that distinction, which I think he’s aware of, but I’m happy to pop in to help; I suspect meeting that bar would’ve prevented him from saying anything at all in this case, which would probably have been worse overall.
I’m a former member turned very hostile to the community represented here these days. So that’s appropriate, I guess.
Any thoughts on how we can help you be at peace?
I disagree that it’s appropriate to use terms for people that they consider slurs because they’re part of a community that you don’t like.
It’s entirely appropriate! Expressing hostility is what slurs are for!
Prescriptive appropriateness vs. descriptive appropriateness.
ESRogs is pointing out a valuable item in a civilizing peace treaty; an available weapon that, if left unused, allows a greater set of possible cooperations to come into existence. “Not appropriate” as a normative/hopeful statement, signaling his position as a signatory to that disarmament clause and one who hopes LW has already or will also sign on, as a subculture.
Zack is pointing out that, from the inside of a slur, it has precisely the purpose that ESRogs is labeling inappropriate. For a slur to express hostility and disregard is like a hammer being used to pound nails. “Entirely appropriate” as a descriptive/technical statement.
I think it would have been better if Zack had made that distinction, which I think he’s aware of, but I’m happy to pop in to help; I suspect meeting that bar would’ve prevented him from saying anything at all in this case, which would probably have been worse overall.