Yeah. I am more pointing at “the very fact that Scott seems to think that ‘trying to circle more than once’ is sufficient to posit substantial resemblance between MIRI research retreats and CFAR staff retreats is strong evidence that Scott has no idea what the space of CFAR staff retreats is like.”
CFAR staff retreats often involve circling. Our last one, a couple weeks ago, had this, though as an optional evening thing that some but not most took part in.
I’m saying they involved circling often while I was there but that fact was something like 3-15% of their “character” (and probably closer to 3% imo) and so learning that some other thing also involves circling tells you very little about the overall resemblance of the two things.
If you pick a randomly selected academic or hobby conference, I will be much more surprised that they had circling than if they had food.
Yeah. I am more pointing at “the very fact that Scott seems to think that ‘trying to circle more than once’ is sufficient to posit substantial resemblance between MIRI research retreats and CFAR staff retreats is strong evidence that Scott has no idea what the space of CFAR staff retreats is like.”
To clarify, are you saying that CFAR staff retreats don’t involve circling?
CFAR staff retreats often involve circling. Our last one, a couple weeks ago, had this, though as an optional evening thing that some but not most took part in.
I’m saying they involved circling often while I was there but that fact was something like 3-15% of their “character” (and probably closer to 3% imo) and so learning that some other thing also involves circling tells you very little about the overall resemblance of the two things.