First, I’m annoyed at the timing of this. The community still seems in the middle of sensemaking around Leverage, and figuring out what to do about it, and this post feels like it pulls the spotlight away...
I want to second this reaction (basically your entire second paragraph). I have been feeling the same but hadn’t worked up the courage to say it.
I am also mad at what I see to be piggybacking on Zoe’s post, downplaying of the harms described in her post, and a subtle redirection of collective attention away from potentially new, timid accounts of things that happened to a specific group of people within Leverage and seem to have a lot of difficulty talking about it.
I hope that the sustained collective attention required to witness, make sense of and address the accounts of harm coming out of the psychology division of Leverage doesn’t get lost as a result of this post being published when it was.
For a moment I actually wondered whether this was a genius-level move by Leverage, but then I decided that I am just being paranoid. But it did derail the previous debate successfully.
On the positive side, I learned some new things. Never heard about Ziz before, for example.
EDIT:
Okay, this is probably silly, but… there is no connection between the Vassarites and Leverage, right? I just realized that my level of ignorance does not justify me dismissing a hypothesis so quickly. And of course, everyone knows everyone, but there are different levels of “knowing people”, and… you know what I mean, hopefully. I will defer to judgment of people from Bay Area about this topic.
Outside of “these people probably talked to each other like once every few months” I think there is no major connection between Leverage and the Vassarites that I am aware of.
I mostly assumed this; I suppose in the opposite case someone probably would have already mentioned that. But I prefer to have it confirmed explicitly.
I want to second this reaction (basically your entire second paragraph). I have been feeling the same but hadn’t worked up the courage to say it.
I am also mad at what I see to be piggybacking on Zoe’s post, downplaying of the harms described in her post, and a subtle redirection of collective attention away from potentially new, timid accounts of things that happened to a specific group of people within Leverage and seem to have a lot of difficulty talking about it.
I hope that the sustained collective attention required to witness, make sense of and address the accounts of harm coming out of the psychology division of Leverage doesn’t get lost as a result of this post being published when it was.
For a moment I actually wondered whether this was a genius-level move by Leverage, but then I decided that I am just being paranoid. But it did derail the previous debate successfully.
On the positive side, I learned some new things. Never heard about Ziz before, for example.
EDIT:
Okay, this is probably silly, but… there is no connection between the Vassarites and Leverage, right? I just realized that my level of ignorance does not justify me dismissing a hypothesis so quickly. And of course, everyone knows everyone, but there are different levels of “knowing people”, and… you know what I mean, hopefully. I will defer to judgment of people from Bay Area about this topic.
Outside of “these people probably talked to each other like once every few months” I think there is no major connection between Leverage and the Vassarites that I am aware of.
Thanks.
I mostly assumed this; I suppose in the opposite case someone probably would have already mentioned that. But I prefer to have it confirmed explicitly.
+2.