It’s extremely hard to sacrifice yourself for someone else. There just aren’t many situations where making yourself dead is the best and only way to make someone else stay alive.
But parents — probably the vast majority of them — routinely make tremendous sacrifices in every area of their lives for their children, which seems to come pretty darn close.
Thousands of hours invested in directly providing care, travel, and other services
Hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in education, food, clothing, etc.
The sacrifice of one parent’s career
Choosing housing locations based primarily on educational and social opportunities for the children, rather than convenience for employment or entertainment
Are these similar to dying for a child? I don’t know. It’s possible that the sum of the financial equivalent of the above is comparable to a statistical life, but I’m just giving rough estimates.
Can you substantiate the claim that giving birth is a sacrifice made for the child as opposed to for the future good of the mother herself?
In general I find it hard to believe that people would choose to become parents for the sake of a potential child, who will only exist because they decide so, unless they expect to enjoy raising a child at least some of the time, or otherwise profit from it (social approval, commitment between married partners, support in old age, government aid).
In general I find it hard to believe that people would choose to become parents for the sake of a potential child, who will only exist because they decide so
I’m sure many of the siblings of our ancestors chose otherwise. But I’d be surprised if that choice stayed popular.
unless they expect to enjoy raising a child at least some of the time, or otherwise profit from it (social approval, commitment between married partners, support in old age, government aid).
Those reasons help. But our instincts give an extra boost when it comes to both expecting and remembering.
Is there any evidence for this being more than just talk?
It’s extremely hard to sacrifice yourself for someone else. There just aren’t many situations where making yourself dead is the best and only way to make someone else stay alive.
But parents — probably the vast majority of them — routinely make tremendous sacrifices in every area of their lives for their children, which seems to come pretty darn close.
Evidence of these “tremendous sacrifices” being… ?
In my experience at least:
Thousands of hours invested in directly providing care, travel, and other services
Hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in education, food, clothing, etc.
The sacrifice of one parent’s career
Choosing housing locations based primarily on educational and social opportunities for the children, rather than convenience for employment or entertainment
Are these similar to dying for a child? I don’t know. It’s possible that the sum of the financial equivalent of the above is comparable to a statistical life, but I’m just giving rough estimates.
Child birth.
Can you substantiate the claim that giving birth is a sacrifice made for the child as opposed to for the future good of the mother herself?
In general I find it hard to believe that people would choose to become parents for the sake of a potential child, who will only exist because they decide so, unless they expect to enjoy raising a child at least some of the time, or otherwise profit from it (social approval, commitment between married partners, support in old age, government aid).
Are any sacrifices provably made “for the recipient” rather than “because the sacrificer gains some (intangible) value from having made it?”
Point taken, it may be too fuzzy a term to distinguish.
I’m sure many of the siblings of our ancestors chose otherwise. But I’d be surprised if that choice stayed popular.
Those reasons help. But our instincts give an extra boost when it comes to both expecting and remembering.