I think it’s more relevant in the genre of “rationalists evaluating civilization’s adequacy” than “alignment metaphor.” It’s a big running question how correct these critiques are. (As alignment metaphor I feel it’s more like fable than evidence, though I think others may read more into that.)
There’s something compelling about picking on someone’s cherry-picked example of inadequacy. Weaknesses in it feel at least as compelling as weaknesses in “random piece of evidence that established their current view about inadequacy.”
My initial overly-detailed comments were largely caused by browsing alignment-forum.com while my wife took a nap on vacation (leaving me unusually likely to follow random impulses about what to do without regard for usefulness).
From there I think the conversation was in part sustained by the usual arguing-on-internet-energy.
As a datapoint: I am usually on the Wentworth side of the Paul-John spectrum but I found Paul’s internet arguing about ACs compelling and have updated very slightly to Paul’s side. :)
I think it’s more relevant in the genre of “rationalists evaluating civilization’s adequacy” than “alignment metaphor.” It’s a big running question how correct these critiques are. (As alignment metaphor I feel it’s more like fable than evidence, though I think others may read more into that.)
There’s something compelling about picking on someone’s cherry-picked example of inadequacy. Weaknesses in it feel at least as compelling as weaknesses in “random piece of evidence that established their current view about inadequacy.”
My initial overly-detailed comments were largely caused by browsing alignment-forum.com while my wife took a nap on vacation (leaving me unusually likely to follow random impulses about what to do without regard for usefulness).
From there I think the conversation was in part sustained by the usual arguing-on-internet-energy.
As a datapoint: I am usually on the Wentworth side of the Paul-John spectrum but I found Paul’s internet arguing about ACs compelling and have updated very slightly to Paul’s side. :)