I wonder what would happen if you left 22 boys together, without an explicit split. Would the factionalize on their own?
Perhaps. They may even end up fighting over glasses. There might be dead pigs involved and maybe a great big glow stick. I think there was something to do with a rock crushing someone.
Now to be fair, the choir boys were already a subgroup. :P Also, Generalization from Fictional Evidence. But I have a feeling you were being facetious.
He was, but it’s still good to remember not to argue from fictional evidence. There must be plenty of real-world examples of what happens to young boys fending for themselves; for example, we could look at the Ik who reportedly do basically that with their kids:
Children are minimally cared for by their mothers until age three, and then are put out to fend for themselves. This separation is absolute. By age three they are expected to find their own food and shelter, and those that survive do provide for themselves. Children band into age-sets for protection, since adults will steal a child’s food whenever possible. No food sharing occurs within an age-set. Groups of children will forage in agricultural fields, which scares off birds and baboons. This is often given as the reason for having children.
..… How abjectly horrifying. Thank you, gwern. However, I’m not sure to what degree that’s applicable… there’s an obvious age disparity between each of these groups, which provides the impetus for social factioning.
I wonder what would happen if you left 22 boys together, without an explicit split. Would the factionalize on their own?
Perhaps. They may even end up fighting over glasses. There might be dead pigs involved and maybe a great big glow stick. I think there was something to do with a rock crushing someone.
Now to be fair, the choir boys were already a subgroup. :P Also, Generalization from Fictional Evidence. But I have a feeling you were being facetious.
He was, but it’s still good to remember not to argue from fictional evidence. There must be plenty of real-world examples of what happens to young boys fending for themselves; for example, we could look at the Ik who reportedly do basically that with their kids:
..… How abjectly horrifying. Thank you, gwern. However, I’m not sure to what degree that’s applicable… there’s an obvious age disparity between each of these groups, which provides the impetus for social factioning.
If a misspent youth in Boy Scouts is any indication—for American Midwestern boys, yes.