I think that future unFAI could take DA seriously and reduce number of observers in his civilization in order to be out of DA logic.
He could:
a) exterminate people
b) unite people in one entity
c) prevent birthes and make people immortal
d) dont allow people to know their real birth rank number by puting them in simulations.
Will it really work? If external universal superdoom exist (vacuum instability), it will not work. If this action is superdoom itself, it works, but there is no need to do it. It is something like Newcomb problem.
It seems this would work for versions of DA based on “observers” since the unFAI drastically reduces the number of observers in the future. I’m not so sure about observer moments though, since presumably the unFAI (or its immortal human colleagues) will count for rather a lot of those…
Yes, it is good point about unFAI observers moments. He could make himself to forget about DA by adding external program which ban all thoughts about DA.
Great post.
I think that future unFAI could take DA seriously and reduce number of observers in his civilization in order to be out of DA logic.
He could:
a) exterminate people
b) unite people in one entity
c) prevent birthes and make people immortal
d) dont allow people to know their real birth rank number by puting them in simulations.
Will it really work? If external universal superdoom exist (vacuum instability), it will not work. If this action is superdoom itself, it works, but there is no need to do it. It is something like Newcomb problem.
It seems this would work for versions of DA based on “observers” since the unFAI drastically reduces the number of observers in the future. I’m not so sure about observer moments though, since presumably the unFAI (or its immortal human colleagues) will count for rather a lot of those…
A version of DA based on observer moments gives sharper predictions (higher probability of observing right now; more imminent doom) and is simpler to apply than a version based on observers. See my other post on that. http://lesswrong.com/lw/9im/doomsday_argument_with_strong_selfsampling/
Yes, it is good point about unFAI observers moments. He could make himself to forget about DA by adding external program which ban all thoughts about DA.