there doesn’t seem to be very good counter-arguments
you might be mindkilled by the local extinctionists. There are plenty of good arguments (not necessarily correct or or universally persuasive), at least good enough to be very much uncertain of the validity of either side, unless you spend thousands of hours diving into it professionally.
you might be mindkilled by the local extinctionists
+1(agreement) and −1(tone): you are correct that good arguments against doom exist, but this way of writing about it feels to me unnecessarily mean to both OP and to the ‘extinctionists’
I think (anti-)extinctionism is a better term than notkilleveryoneism. I agree that “mindkill” is a bit stronger connotation than necessary, though. My annoyance with a one-sided view matching Eliezer’s in many of the newbie posters comes through.
I don’t see very good arguments that cover all scenarios. I see good arguments against a Yud-style fast takeoff and FOOM with nanites, but that’s just a slice of the existential risk pie.
you might be mindkilled by the local extinctionists. There are plenty of good arguments (not necessarily correct or or universally persuasive), at least good enough to be very much uncertain of the validity of either side, unless you spend thousands of hours diving into it professionally.
+1(agreement) and −1(tone): you are correct that good arguments against doom exist, but this way of writing about it feels to me unnecessarily mean to both OP and to the ‘extinctionists’
I think (anti-)extinctionism is a better term than notkilleveryoneism. I agree that “mindkill” is a bit stronger connotation than necessary, though. My annoyance with a one-sided view matching Eliezer’s in many of the newbie posters comes through.
I don’t see very good arguments that cover all scenarios. I see good arguments against a Yud-style fast takeoff and FOOM with nanites, but that’s just a slice of the existential risk pie.
Neither do I , but that’s not a problem because there’s no reason why complete extinction, and 0% risk are the only possi bilities.