these alternating sections of carefully worded academic abstracts, followed by a few words of sarcastic barb, feel too much like a solid dig at the other side instead of a thoughtful argument
The ‘thoughtful argument’ parts are often hosted in other posts. I generally try not to write 20-page posts, but to break things into pieces. E.g. my reaction to abstract #3 is backed up here and here.
The post mentions with approval...
No, it doesn’t.
The opening quotation is flippant and hyperbolic, and is neither qualified nor argued for in the rest of the post.
Right, the purpose of this post isn’t to argue that specific point. What’s your view, here? That an article should argue for every claim it makes? I doubt that’s what you intend, as that would mean that each article actually becomes a book.
Yet the post does not argue for the curriculum...
Hmmm. Maybe I could give a lot more detail about why I made those specific recommendations in a discussion post or something.
I think the word “revere” is a boo-button for rationalists...
There is no need to write a 20-page post, let alone a book. But that doesn’t mean your only remaining option is barb. Regarding the responses to those philosophical articles, you could have responded briefly yet earnestly.
As for the Russell quotation: No, I do not think an article should argue for every claim it makes. (It would not be a book; it would be a universe.) But the quotation was a dig at those self-important philosophers. That’s why, I thought, it made the post seem applause-lighty.
I guess you’re right that the post doesn’t really approve of Glymour’s suggestion. I mistakenly read your approval into it.
Thanks for keeping the tone of this thread reasonable.
The ‘thoughtful argument’ parts are often hosted in other posts. I generally try not to write 20-page posts, but to break things into pieces. E.g. my reaction to abstract #3 is backed up here and here.
It isn’t remotely clear to me from the abstract that the author is “arguing about the definition” of knowledge at all.
Incidentally, I have noticed in that LWers often are not good at distinguishing between saying something novel about what X is, and changing the definition of X.
The ‘thoughtful argument’ parts are often hosted in other posts. I generally try not to write 20-page posts, but to break things into pieces. E.g. my reaction to abstract #3 is backed up here and here.
No, it doesn’t.
Right, the purpose of this post isn’t to argue that specific point. What’s your view, here? That an article should argue for every claim it makes? I doubt that’s what you intend, as that would mean that each article actually becomes a book.
Hmmm. Maybe I could give a lot more detail about why I made those specific recommendations in a discussion post or something.
Fair enough, I’ll edit that.
There is no need to write a 20-page post, let alone a book. But that doesn’t mean your only remaining option is barb. Regarding the responses to those philosophical articles, you could have responded briefly yet earnestly.
As for the Russell quotation: No, I do not think an article should argue for every claim it makes. (It would not be a book; it would be a universe.) But the quotation was a dig at those self-important philosophers. That’s why, I thought, it made the post seem applause-lighty.
I guess you’re right that the post doesn’t really approve of Glymour’s suggestion. I mistakenly read your approval into it.
Thanks for keeping the tone of this thread reasonable.
It isn’t remotely clear to me from the abstract that the author is “arguing about the definition” of knowledge at all.
Incidentally, I have noticed in that LWers often are not good at distinguishing between saying something novel about what X is, and changing the definition of X.