Yes, I get definite cultist vibes from some members. A cult is basically an organization of a small number of members who hold that their beliefs make them superior (in one or more ways) to others, with an added implication of social tightness, shared activities, internal slang, difficult for outsiders to understand. Many LW people often appear to behave like this.
I never stated LW is a cult. It clearly isn’t. It does however have at least several, possibly many, members who appear to think about LW in the way many cult members think of their cult.
I assume an educated reader will infer the massive negative social connotations of any movement or organization that has a reputation, no matter how small at this point, as being ‘cultish’—such a reputation inevitably makes achieving goals, recruiting members, etc., more difficult.
Thus being careful not to create that image is very important (or should be) to the membership of the site.
I assume an educated reader will infer the massive negative social connotations of any movement or organization that has a reputation, no matter how small at this point, as being ‘cultish’
From saying almost nothing you have switched to overblown hyperbole. (BTW, I believe you mean “be aware of”, not “infer”.) It appears that LW does have, in some circles (like RationalWiki, ha) a cultish reputation, but I do not see “massive” consequences arising from that.
In a highly chaotic system like our society, small differences (e.g. a reputation in some circles as cultish) can decrease the odds of something gaining influence or acceptance incredibly.
People spend their whole lives researching sales, and any time someone is spreading an idea, sales comes into it. If you think any marketing department of a major company would accept the idea that some website likely visited by many, many, potential members discusses their organization in such a negative light, you are very mistaken. When even the regular members are discussing openly, are we getting a reputation as a cult, that is a terrible ‘branding’ failure.
For LW to achieve the potential most of it’s members (I would assume) hope it will… yes there are consequences.
Any time a large group of potential members or future ‘rationalists’ (not to confuse LW with rationalism) is skeptical or inclined to disinterest in LW because they heard it had some sort of ‘cultish’ reputation, is a massive potential loss of people who could contribute and learn for the betterment of themselves and society as a whole.
Don’t underestimate the impact of small differences when you are dealing with something as complex, and unpredictable as society and the spread of ideas.
Yes, I get definite cultist vibes from some members. A cult is basically an organization of a small number of members who hold that their beliefs make them superior (in one or more ways) to others, with an added implication of social tightness, shared activities, internal slang, difficult for outsiders to understand. Many LW people often appear to behave like this.
You too are using an even looser definition of a cult. Surely you know that ‘cult’ carries some different (negative) connotations for other people?
I never stated LW is a cult. It clearly isn’t. It does however have at least several, possibly many, members who appear to think about LW in the way many cult members think of their cult.
Observe the progression:
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At this point, are you saying anything at all?
I assume an educated reader will infer the massive negative social connotations of any movement or organization that has a reputation, no matter how small at this point, as being ‘cultish’—such a reputation inevitably makes achieving goals, recruiting members, etc., more difficult.
Thus being careful not to create that image is very important (or should be) to the membership of the site.
From saying almost nothing you have switched to overblown hyperbole. (BTW, I believe you mean “be aware of”, not “infer”.) It appears that LW does have, in some circles (like RationalWiki, ha) a cultish reputation, but I do not see “massive” consequences arising from that.
In a highly chaotic system like our society, small differences (e.g. a reputation in some circles as cultish) can decrease the odds of something gaining influence or acceptance incredibly.
People spend their whole lives researching sales, and any time someone is spreading an idea, sales comes into it. If you think any marketing department of a major company would accept the idea that some website likely visited by many, many, potential members discusses their organization in such a negative light, you are very mistaken. When even the regular members are discussing openly, are we getting a reputation as a cult, that is a terrible ‘branding’ failure.
For LW to achieve the potential most of it’s members (I would assume) hope it will… yes there are consequences.
Any time a large group of potential members or future ‘rationalists’ (not to confuse LW with rationalism) is skeptical or inclined to disinterest in LW because they heard it had some sort of ‘cultish’ reputation, is a massive potential loss of people who could contribute and learn for the betterment of themselves and society as a whole.
Don’t underestimate the impact of small differences when you are dealing with something as complex, and unpredictable as society and the spread of ideas.
Which members?