I really can’t understand Putin’s action here. The sanctions will actually cause of a lot of pain to the oligarchs, and so to Putin’s patronage networks, the cash control systems. These could have targetted by sanctions before but Putin always stayed just under the line.
But now, isn’t Putin trading away all of it? Or at least gambling everything? I actually feel like this invasino puts a timer on Putin’s Russia. It doesn’t make any sense.
The only expalanation I can come up with a terminal cancer diagnosis or something, so Putin just doesn’t care about Russia more than a few years in the future.
First Putin conquers the whole Ukraine, or most of it. Then he agrees to leave most of it, (and only keep Crimea, Doneck, and some extra territory as a bonus) in return for having all sanctions lifted, plus a promise that Ukraine will never join NATO or EU, plus maybe some donation to Russian economy.
EDIT: Also, before Putin leaves Ukraine, all local people inconvenient for Russia will “accidentally” die.
I think that’s very close. It could also be up to discuss getting Baltic States out of NATO (Estland and Lettland), which border Russia. I think a security belt between NATO and Russia would be great for world peace.
I don’t see avenue for negotiations. Any attempts before was answered with “How dare you?!” and “This cannot stand!”. How do you think it was going to be now, after invasion? One reason I was thinking invasion is not possible was that. Complete break up of any cooperative relationship. But maybe Russia looks at it a bit differently: it is already pretty much completely broken, so what’s the point? (No excuse for shooting war though—I have no idea why that needed to happen)
I really can’t understand Putin’s action here. The sanctions will actually cause of a lot of pain to the oligarchs, and so to Putin’s patronage networks, the cash control systems. These could have targetted by sanctions before but Putin always stayed just under the line.
But now, isn’t Putin trading away all of it? Or at least gambling everything? I actually feel like this invasino puts a timer on Putin’s Russia. It doesn’t make any sense.
The only expalanation I can come up with a terminal cancer diagnosis or something, so Putin just doesn’t care about Russia more than a few years in the future.
Just wildly speculating, but how about this:
First Putin conquers the whole Ukraine, or most of it. Then he agrees to leave most of it, (and only keep Crimea, Doneck, and some extra territory as a bonus) in return for having all sanctions lifted, plus a promise that Ukraine will never join NATO or EU, plus maybe some donation to Russian economy.
EDIT: Also, before Putin leaves Ukraine, all local people inconvenient for Russia will “accidentally” die.
I think that’s very close. It could also be up to discuss getting Baltic States out of NATO (Estland and Lettland), which border Russia. I think a security belt between NATO and Russia would be great for world peace.
I agree, perhaps St. Petersburg should secede from Russia and become a neutral buffer zone. For the sake of world peace.
It’s a funny joke.
You might want to edit this for clarity: in English Estland is Estonia and Letland is Latva. This was not immediately obvious to me on first glance.
I don’t see avenue for negotiations. Any attempts before was answered with “How dare you?!” and “This cannot stand!”. How do you think it was going to be now, after invasion? One reason I was thinking invasion is not possible was that. Complete break up of any cooperative relationship. But maybe Russia looks at it a bit differently: it is already pretty much completely broken, so what’s the point? (No excuse for shooting war though—I have no idea why that needed to happen)