Am I crazy or was something really similar to this, with the same thing of asking for a LW moderator to vouch, posted like a year ago? I didn’t immediately find it by searching.
I’m not involved with the Bay Area crowd but I remember seeing things about how Leverage is a scam/cult years ago; I was surprised to learn it’s still around...? I expected most everyone would have deserted it after that...
This reminds me of the focusing/circling/NVC discussions, one group (to which I belonged) was like “this is obviously culty mindfuckery, can’t you see” and the other group couldn’t see, and arguments couldn’t bridge that gap. It’s like how some people can recognize bullying and others will say “boys will be boys”, while looking at the exact same situation.
Am I crazy or was something really similar to this, with the same thing of asking for a LW moderator to vouch, posted like a year ago? I didn’t immediately find it by searching.
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/qYbqX3jX4JnTtHA5f/leverage-research-reviewing-the-basic-facts
This is also a useful resource, and the pingbacks link to other resources.
I want to gesture at “The Plan”, linked from Gregory Lewis’s comment (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/qYbqX3jX4JnTtHA5f/leverage-research-reviewing-the-basic-facts?commentId=8goitqWAZfEmEDrBT), as supporting evidence for the explicit “take over the world” vibe, in terms of how exactly beneficial outcomes for humanity were meant to result from the project, best viewable as PDF.
I’m not involved with the Bay Area crowd but I remember seeing things about how Leverage is a scam/cult years ago; I was surprised to learn it’s still around...? I expected most everyone would have deserted it after that...
This reminds me of the focusing/circling/NVC discussions, one group (to which I belonged) was like “this is obviously culty mindfuckery, can’t you see” and the other group couldn’t see, and arguments couldn’t bridge that gap. It’s like how some people can recognize bullying and others will say “boys will be boys”, while looking at the exact same situation.