Yes it does, what you understand (the intuition about how things work) is your model of the world, the model of the world is a representation of reality made based on empirical tests. You don’t have epistemic access to reality itself. That’s what I mean by saying that “understanding is within the map, not within the territory”.
What do you understand about reality outside of your model of reality?
Except that empirical tests don’t allow you to have direct epistemic access to ‘reality itself’ (direct knowledge about reality), because you need to interpret those tests to derive the models (the knowledge), and it’s not always determined wh. ‘Direct epistemic access to reality’ is the idealisation of knowing what reality would be like independently of any model (of course, not anything that is actually possible).
‘Understanding’ is a cognitive process and only exists within your cognition, the way you think your model represents reality is still part of the model itself, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong (although it predictably could be, at least it definitely is a simplification), it still explains what you observe after all, which is the thing you are directly acquainted with. The underlying reality can be completely unlike what it feels like from the inside, imagine that the substrate of ‘a’ reality is the transistors that simulate it or a holograph or ‘physical’ things, and someone inside it can’t tell which it is because the underlying physics can be any of those.
No I haven’t, but this is basic stuff(? Like, this type of skepticism has existed since the Antiquity in some schools of thought, and this is no different from the Cartesian doubt.
Descartes of course summon God as a solution to the problem. He chickened out >->
Forms of scepticism based on the directness of perception as revealed by the scientific world view are modern, in the sense of only going back a few centuries.
Of course, but ‘intuition’ and ‘understanding’ are within the map, not within the territory.
Which still doesn’t show “there’s nothing to understand outside of your model of reality”
Yes it does, what you understand (the intuition about how things work) is your model of the world, the model of the world is a representation of reality made based on empirical tests. You don’t have epistemic access to reality itself. That’s what I mean by saying that “understanding is within the map, not within the territory”.
What do you understand about reality outside of your model of reality?
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Except that empirical tests don’t allow you to have direct epistemic access to ‘reality itself’ (direct knowledge about reality), because you need to interpret those tests to derive the models (the knowledge), and it’s not always determined wh. ‘Direct epistemic access to reality’ is the idealisation of knowing what reality would be like independently of any model (of course, not anything that is actually possible).
‘Understanding’ is a cognitive process and only exists within your cognition, the way you think your model represents reality is still part of the model itself, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong (although it predictably could be, at least it definitely is a simplification), it still explains what you observe after all, which is the thing you are directly acquainted with. The underlying reality can be completely unlike what it feels like from the inside, imagine that the substrate of ‘a’ reality is the transistors that simulate it or a holograph or ‘physical’ things, and someone inside it can’t tell which it is because the underlying physics can be any of those.
Yes, but “direct” is the crux… you didn’t mention it before.
I said ‘reality itself’ though, as in ‘reality independently of any observer’. Whatever it’s fine, it’s an understandable confusion between us.
Have you read Kant or are you reinventing him?
No I haven’t, but this is basic stuff(? Like, this type of skepticism has existed since the Antiquity in some schools of thought, and this is no different from the Cartesian doubt.
Descartes of course summon God as a solution to the problem. He chickened out >->
Forms of scepticism based on the directness of perception as revealed by the scientific world view are modern, in the sense of only going back a few centuries.
Ok, I thought that some Buddhist schools and the Pyrrhonists had taught that type of skepticism, but it doesn’t seem to be so.