In this comment I list some things that are not lying, which include many of your examples. I’ll add now that I think anybody can waive any right they don’t happen to want, including the right not to be lied to, and reiterate also that you have to intend to be believed to count as lying, and clarify that being mistaken—including sincere mistaken-ness about remembering to include a caveat necessary for factual accuracy—does not constitute a lie.
If Bella has successfully communicated to Alice what she’s looking for, if Charlie isn’t making an attempt to cause Doris to believe he’s fine, likewise with Edward—then that might well be fine. (Is it a coincidence that every single name you chose except Doris is a Twilight character?)
If I threaten or corner someone...
...then you may well have forfeited contextually relevant rights. I read Chris’s post, saw an undisclaimed second-person pronoun telling me to respect others’ right to lie to me, and was like: “But… I didn’t do anything.”
...then you may well have forfeited contextually relevant rights.
Sometimes people cause others to feel cornered or threatened, without knowing it. That doesn’t make them bad people, but it would explain what might otherwise be “bad behavior” on others’ parts. And if anyone finds that people seem to regularly lie to them about certain kinds of thing, they should seriously consider the hypothesis that they are misunderstanding the interaction.
I read Chris’s post, saw an undisclaimed second-person pronoun telling me to respect others’ right to lie to me, and was like: “But… I didn’t do anything.”
I know what that feels like. I’ve had that response to a lot of things that turned out not to be about me at all. It hurts at first. I try to read those things a second time, when I’m not feeling indignant anymore, to figure out whether it’s actually about me, or things I do. I try to avoid the generic “you” and “we”, and abstract pronouncements like that, for exactly that reason—I don’t want to be misunderstood in that way.
In this comment I list some things that are not lying, which include many of your examples. I’ll add now that I think anybody can waive any right they don’t happen to want, including the right not to be lied to, and reiterate also that you have to intend to be believed to count as lying, and clarify that being mistaken—including sincere mistaken-ness about remembering to include a caveat necessary for factual accuracy—does not constitute a lie.
If Bella has successfully communicated to Alice what she’s looking for, if Charlie isn’t making an attempt to cause Doris to believe he’s fine, likewise with Edward—then that might well be fine. (Is it a coincidence that every single name you chose except Doris is a Twilight character?)
...then you may well have forfeited contextually relevant rights. I read Chris’s post, saw an undisclaimed second-person pronoun telling me to respect others’ right to lie to me, and was like: “But… I didn’t do anything.”
Sometimes people cause others to feel cornered or threatened, without knowing it. That doesn’t make them bad people, but it would explain what might otherwise be “bad behavior” on others’ parts. And if anyone finds that people seem to regularly lie to them about certain kinds of thing, they should seriously consider the hypothesis that they are misunderstanding the interaction.
I know what that feels like. I’ve had that response to a lot of things that turned out not to be about me at all. It hurts at first. I try to read those things a second time, when I’m not feeling indignant anymore, to figure out whether it’s actually about me, or things I do. I try to avoid the generic “you” and “we”, and abstract pronouncements like that, for exactly that reason—I don’t want to be misunderstood in that way.
Not intentional, I was just looking for common names in alphabetical order, but likely Alicorn → Luminosity made those names more available. :)