All this needs the disclaimer that some domains should be lie-free zones. I value the truth and despise those who would corrupt intellectual discourse with lies.
I don’t think this will work in practice. Lying is a habit. If you habitual lie in private life I won’t you expect you to be completely honest when you are in academia. Even if you try to be honest I doubt you will be so completely. It relatively easy to try to control your data in different ways and then report the way that provided the best p value while not reporting the other ways.
Yes, the p value is real for that statistic test but you weren’t fully honest either.
Then there are the big lies such as: “The data that we have follows a normal distribution.” which you find in a lot of papers and which you can’t really escape.
I don’t think lying in relationship with significant other is a great idea. There a girl with whom I dance fairly intimately.
Two weeks ago I accidentally hit her with my elbow with a bit of force. She doesn’t has that much experience but wants to dance fancy so I danced fancy with her. We both made a little mistake and my elbow hit her face.
She directly told me nothing happened and we continue dancing. Next week I meet her and she has a big bruise at the location and tells me my elbow was responsible.
The fact that she told me in the moment that it didn’t hurt was a lie. In the moment she got what she wanted by continuing the dance but it makes the whole interaction between us so much harder. Dancing relatively intimately without any good feedback about when you hurt the other person is hard.
Normally I have decent feedback about whether the kind of intimicy I have with a girl is a bit uncomfortable for the girl I’m dancing with and can adept in that moment. With her I don’t feel like I can read her one that level. It feels like she made a decision that she wants to dance close and if that raises a bit of anxiety in her she won’t show any sign of it because it might mean that I increase the distance.
I think my lack of reading her body even resulted in the situation of hitting her with my elbow.
The whole situation is pretty weird for me. I have a woman that I find attractive who wants physical intimacy during the dance but it doesn’t feel right because I have no feedback about what she feels.
In intimate relationship I think it’s very worthwhile to be open about feelings so that the other person can react to what you feel. When in doubt, focus on communicating what you feel instead of making judgements.
< In intimate relationship I think it’s very worthwhile to be open about feelings so that the other person can react to what you feel. When in doubt, focus on communicating what you feel instead of making judgements.
I agree with this part. Derren Brown talks about communication in his book “tricks of the mind”, and about what an important role it plays in relationships. He envisages a situation in which both members of the relationship are actually very much in love with one another, but their inability to express that affection leads to all sorts of complications and a lack of feeling of being loved back. As far as making judgments go, that part is not as much in your control as you think it is. Judgments are speedy mental processes and happen before you even realise that its happening. I doubt any one purposely thinks of all the ways in which their significant other is lacking and tries to use it to improve their position in the relationship (at least not in the kind of relationship that we are talking about here).
I dont believe the earlier part about the habit of lying transferring itself to academia automatically. Most people speak a certain way and write with another style. The difference between the two is that you simply have a lot more time in an academic situation in which you can analyse and decide exactly what you want to put across, something which is quite impractical in day to day communication. So unless you are already pre-decided on committing “Academic SIN” I doubt telling day to day white lies will send you to “Academic HELL”.
I dont believe the earlier part about the habit of lying transferring itself to academia automatically. Most people speak a certain way and write with another style.
Not only style—if you aren’t in an English-speaking country, you write academic articles in a different language altogether than what you speak with friends.
As far as making judgments go, that part is not as much in your control as you think it is.
That depends on the amount of time you spent meditating and being aware of how your mind. I won’t say I never make judgements because that’s not true but I do think I have relatively good awareness.
I know how easy trust that one can use to affect the other person at a deep level can develop when you are in a state of mind of nonjudgement.
It might take years of hard work to get to that place but if you do the benefits that you get for your social interactions are bigger than the little benefits that you get through telling white lies.
The difference between the two is that you simply have a lot more time in an academic situation in which you can analyse and decide exactly what you want to put across, something which is quite impractical in day to day communication.
I think there pretty good evidence that most people who let themselves be funded by the drug industry taint the papers that they write to be more in the interest of the drug industry and most of them don’t think they are engaging in practice that sends them to “Academic Hell”,
As you said above, making mental judgements is a speedy process. Few people have good self awareness that would be required to be unbaised.
If the little lies that you tell in your research paper result in your result not replicating does it really matter whether you fulfill the technical definition for fraud?
It takes practice at being honest to avoid lying in a way where you lie to yourself about it just as much as you are lying to the audience that reads your paper.
I don’t think this will work in practice. Lying is a habit. If you habitual lie in private life I won’t you expect you to be completely honest when you are in academia. Even if you try to be honest I doubt you will be so completely. It relatively easy to try to control your data in different ways and then report the way that provided the best p value while not reporting the other ways. Yes, the p value is real for that statistic test but you weren’t fully honest either.
Then there are the big lies such as: “The data that we have follows a normal distribution.” which you find in a lot of papers and which you can’t really escape.
I don’t think lying in relationship with significant other is a great idea. There a girl with whom I dance fairly intimately. Two weeks ago I accidentally hit her with my elbow with a bit of force. She doesn’t has that much experience but wants to dance fancy so I danced fancy with her. We both made a little mistake and my elbow hit her face.
She directly told me nothing happened and we continue dancing. Next week I meet her and she has a big bruise at the location and tells me my elbow was responsible. The fact that she told me in the moment that it didn’t hurt was a lie. In the moment she got what she wanted by continuing the dance but it makes the whole interaction between us so much harder. Dancing relatively intimately without any good feedback about when you hurt the other person is hard.
Normally I have decent feedback about whether the kind of intimicy I have with a girl is a bit uncomfortable for the girl I’m dancing with and can adept in that moment. With her I don’t feel like I can read her one that level. It feels like she made a decision that she wants to dance close and if that raises a bit of anxiety in her she won’t show any sign of it because it might mean that I increase the distance.
I think my lack of reading her body even resulted in the situation of hitting her with my elbow.
The whole situation is pretty weird for me. I have a woman that I find attractive who wants physical intimacy during the dance but it doesn’t feel right because I have no feedback about what she feels.
In intimate relationship I think it’s very worthwhile to be open about feelings so that the other person can react to what you feel. When in doubt, focus on communicating what you feel instead of making judgements.
< In intimate relationship I think it’s very worthwhile to be open about feelings so that the other person can react to what you feel. When in doubt, focus on communicating what you feel instead of making judgements.
I agree with this part. Derren Brown talks about communication in his book “tricks of the mind”, and about what an important role it plays in relationships. He envisages a situation in which both members of the relationship are actually very much in love with one another, but their inability to express that affection leads to all sorts of complications and a lack of feeling of being loved back. As far as making judgments go, that part is not as much in your control as you think it is. Judgments are speedy mental processes and happen before you even realise that its happening. I doubt any one purposely thinks of all the ways in which their significant other is lacking and tries to use it to improve their position in the relationship (at least not in the kind of relationship that we are talking about here).
I dont believe the earlier part about the habit of lying transferring itself to academia automatically. Most people speak a certain way and write with another style. The difference between the two is that you simply have a lot more time in an academic situation in which you can analyse and decide exactly what you want to put across, something which is quite impractical in day to day communication. So unless you are already pre-decided on committing “Academic SIN” I doubt telling day to day white lies will send you to “Academic HELL”.
Not only style—if you aren’t in an English-speaking country, you write academic articles in a different language altogether than what you speak with friends.
That depends on the amount of time you spent meditating and being aware of how your mind. I won’t say I never make judgements because that’s not true but I do think I have relatively good awareness.
I know how easy trust that one can use to affect the other person at a deep level can develop when you are in a state of mind of nonjudgement.
It might take years of hard work to get to that place but if you do the benefits that you get for your social interactions are bigger than the little benefits that you get through telling white lies.
I think there pretty good evidence that most people who let themselves be funded by the drug industry taint the papers that they write to be more in the interest of the drug industry and most of them don’t think they are engaging in practice that sends them to “Academic Hell”,
As you said above, making mental judgements is a speedy process. Few people have good self awareness that would be required to be unbaised. If the little lies that you tell in your research paper result in your result not replicating does it really matter whether you fulfill the technical definition for fraud? It takes practice at being honest to avoid lying in a way where you lie to yourself about it just as much as you are lying to the audience that reads your paper.