I’m failing to understand your comment in context and need elaboration. My point was that you can’t use any property, except existence, as a reason for the absence of consciousness, because that property doesn’t change for humans in the zombie world, but they are still not conscious. And all that assuming that without accepting “consciousness is existence” you don’t have sufficient reasons for dismissing conceivability argument. So without “consciousness is existence” you reason that all properties are present for both real world and zombie world, and with it you either say that physicalism forces you to conceive that zombie world doesn’t exist or it’s a contradiction to say that you can conceive a world that both exists and doesn’t have existence aka consciousness.
I’m failing to understand your comment in context and need elaboration. My point was that you can’t use any property, except existence, as a reason for the absence of consciousness, because that property doesn’t change for humans in the zombie world
The whole point of zombie argument is that consciousness is or depends on a non physical property that can’t be detected externally.
Avoiding epiphenomenalism and zombies is supposed to be a feature of EC.
Yeah, that’s the point—every property except existence is vulnerable to zombies.
No property that is evident is subject to zombiehood.
Yes, I meant vulnerable to constructing conceivability argument which implies that property does not specify consciousness.
And I mean that you cant conceive of a property being both present and absent.
I’m failing to understand your comment in context and need elaboration. My point was that you can’t use any property, except existence, as a reason for the absence of consciousness, because that property doesn’t change for humans in the zombie world, but they are still not conscious. And all that assuming that without accepting “consciousness is existence” you don’t have sufficient reasons for dismissing conceivability argument. So without “consciousness is existence” you reason that all properties are present for both real world and zombie world, and with it you either say that physicalism forces you to conceive that zombie world doesn’t exist or it’s a contradiction to say that you can conceive a world that both exists and doesn’t have existence aka consciousness.
The whole point of zombie argument is that consciousness is or depends on a non physical property that can’t be detected externally.
Ah, you mean I should have said “For every physical property” instead of “For every property”? Sure.