If you place positive value on the fact of ownership the endowment effect isn’t irrational.
But it is worth reexamining this particular terminal value and see if it is indeed terminal. If there is an answer to “I value owning things because...” beyond “because the mere fact of owning things gives me warm fuzzies”, then maybe there is a better way to get those warm fuzzies.
OK, I’m not an expert on the endowment effect. But from what I recall, behavioral economists have found that if you randomly give a gift to half of a classroom, then offer everyone the option to sell their gift if they have one or buy one if they don’t, very few transactions take place. This is considered odd because you’d expect naively that everyone values the gift according to a certain dollar amount before any gifting happens, and you’d expect to see lots of cases where people could gain by selling/buying a gift.
It sounds like maybe the way you’re using the word “rational”, anything that anyone does can be considered “rational” just by postulating the right utility function. I don’t think that approximates the standard usage of the word.
If you prefer to place value on the fact of ownership, I recommend you avoid reading the GP, as it was directed at people who wanted to hack themselves to no longer place value on the fact of ownership. If you prefer not to, knowing that economists consider your impulses odd and not very useful (in a certain technical sense) might help.
anything that anyone does can be considered “rational” just by postulating the right utility function.
No, they actually have to have that utility function. That my actions would be rational if I did value something doesn’t mean they actually are. However, in the case we’re discussing it seemed you were stipulating just those people—people who value possessions qua possessions.
I’d say it’s usually that there’s a small, immediate negative effect of losing the object, but a larger-over-time positive effect of not living with clutter. I suspect most people run in to up-front-costs issues, and also don’t realize how much of a negative effect clutter can have (“it takes an extra 2-3 seconds to find any utensil while cooking; therefor cooking is less fun; therefor I cook less often” style chains seem fairly common)
If you place positive value on the fact of ownership the endowment effect isn’t irrational.
But it is worth reexamining this particular terminal value and see if it is indeed terminal. If there is an answer to “I value owning things because...” beyond “because the mere fact of owning things gives me warm fuzzies”, then maybe there is a better way to get those warm fuzzies.
OK, I’m not an expert on the endowment effect. But from what I recall, behavioral economists have found that if you randomly give a gift to half of a classroom, then offer everyone the option to sell their gift if they have one or buy one if they don’t, very few transactions take place. This is considered odd because you’d expect naively that everyone values the gift according to a certain dollar amount before any gifting happens, and you’d expect to see lots of cases where people could gain by selling/buying a gift.
It sounds like maybe the way you’re using the word “rational”, anything that anyone does can be considered “rational” just by postulating the right utility function. I don’t think that approximates the standard usage of the word.
If you prefer to place value on the fact of ownership, I recommend you avoid reading the GP, as it was directed at people who wanted to hack themselves to no longer place value on the fact of ownership. If you prefer not to, knowing that economists consider your impulses odd and not very useful (in a certain technical sense) might help.
No, they actually have to have that utility function. That my actions would be rational if I did value something doesn’t mean they actually are. However, in the case we’re discussing it seemed you were stipulating just those people—people who value possessions qua possessions.
I’d say it’s usually that there’s a small, immediate negative effect of losing the object, but a larger-over-time positive effect of not living with clutter. I suspect most people run in to up-front-costs issues, and also don’t realize how much of a negative effect clutter can have (“it takes an extra 2-3 seconds to find any utensil while cooking; therefor cooking is less fun; therefor I cook less often” style chains seem fairly common)
I’m not saying that most people do value ownership. I’m simply pointing out that John_Maxwell_IV’s advice was aimed specifically at a group which did.