Because it’s a fully general counterargument against caring about or doing anything. That you shouldn’t care about something because it is temporary is poison. I can’t even imagine the hell we would live in if views like this were widely and earnestly adopted.
You’re right, of course (have an upvote). OTOH, I do like the start of the quote, because there is a difference between caring about something and believing you need to do something. I see the quote as a reminder that you don’t have to do anything in an absolute sense. You have to do some things because you want some other things. ‘I need to do ’ should be short for ‘I need to do because ’. And it should be your reason, you shouldn’t feel you have to do it just because others tell you to or because your parents told you when you were small.
On the gripping hand, I didn’t upvote the quote either, because I don’t like the part that’s saying ‘nothing is real’.
Um, it was actually a rhetorical question, showing the absurdity of the given interpretation of the quote, specifically that saying the quote encourages not to care about something, is akin to making an argument that claiming morality is not objective encourages people to be amoral.
Thank you for that link, though. That’s a very nice framework.
GP clearly thinks so to, which is why they presented the question, clearly trying to accuse GGP of a similar equivocation.
Your actual claim is ridiculous. It is most certainly not the case that believing in God can only connect to Stage One morality. Even in the face of a punishing god, this wouldn’t be true, but not all gods are punishing anyway, making it even more off.
Because it’s a fully general counterargument against caring about or doing anything. That you shouldn’t care about something because it is temporary is poison. I can’t even imagine the hell we would live in if views like this were widely and earnestly adopted.
You’re right, of course (have an upvote). OTOH, I do like the start of the quote, because there is a difference between caring about something and believing you need to do something. I see the quote as a reminder that you don’t have to do anything in an absolute sense. You have to do some things because you want some other things. ‘I need to do ’ should be short for ‘I need to do because ’. And it should be your reason, you shouldn’t feel you have to do it just because others tell you to or because your parents told you when you were small.
On the gripping hand, I didn’t upvote the quote either, because I don’t like the part that’s saying ‘nothing is real’.
Yeah, this is exactly how I understand it as well.
Thanks for the explanation.
Is atheism a fully general counterargument against being a moral person?
Morality and belief in supernatural are mostly independent. (You can get Stage One morality from believing in God, but that’s it.)
Um, it was actually a rhetorical question, showing the absurdity of the given interpretation of the quote, specifically that saying the quote encourages not to care about something, is akin to making an argument that claiming morality is not objective encourages people to be amoral.
Thank you for that link, though. That’s a very nice framework.
GP clearly thinks so to, which is why they presented the question, clearly trying to accuse GGP of a similar equivocation.
Your actual claim is ridiculous. It is most certainly not the case that believing in God can only connect to Stage One morality. Even in the face of a punishing god, this wouldn’t be true, but not all gods are punishing anyway, making it even more off.