And again we could exist only in those regions of the Universe which is not conqured by alien nanobot. Or they are conqured but lay dormant somethere, and in this case SETI attack still possible.
It seems a bit like you’re grasping at straws to keep the SETI threat viable. I realize you’re attached to it, I saw the website. Still, allow yourself to follow the arguments whereever they may lead.
I know that nano von Neuman probs is strongest argument against the theory and I knew it even before I published it here. Moreover, i have shorter article about possible alien nanobots in Solar system which I will eventually publish here—if it is not to much offtopic.
But from epistemic point of view we cant close one unknown case with another big unknown with 100 percent certanity.
Any way it will not change conclusion: SETI serch is or usless or dangerous, and should be stopped.
There’s nothing this ragtag horde of competing special interests (humanity) needs more than the uniting force of “we received signals from other civilizations”. To unite us and to usher in a new era of a redefined in-group (“us”) versus the new out-group (“them”—the aliens).
As the old adage goes, me against my brother, my brother and I against our cousins, my cousins and I against strangers.
What we need is a “all of humanity versus some unspecified aliens” to save us. Even if we have to make them up ourselves; there should be an astrophysicists’ conspiracy to fake such signals. I imagine something like “Ok Earth-guys, whoever gets to Epsilon Eridani first owns it! Also, we demand a new season of Firefly.” (This would be troublesome, because it would mean they are very close already.)
It seems a bit like you’re grasping at straws to keep the SETI threat viable. I realize you’re attached to it, I saw the website. Still, allow yourself to follow the arguments whereever they may lead.
I know that nano von Neuman probs is strongest argument against the theory and I knew it even before I published it here. Moreover, i have shorter article about possible alien nanobots in Solar system which I will eventually publish here—if it is not to much offtopic.
But from epistemic point of view we cant close one unknown case with another big unknown with 100 percent certanity.
Any way it will not change conclusion: SETI serch is or usless or dangerous, and should be stopped.
Useless? I don’t think so.
There’s nothing this ragtag horde of competing special interests (humanity) needs more than the uniting force of “we received signals from other civilizations”. To unite us and to usher in a new era of a redefined in-group (“us”) versus the new out-group (“them”—the aliens).
As the old adage goes, me against my brother, my brother and I against our cousins, my cousins and I against strangers.
What we need is a “all of humanity versus some unspecified aliens” to save us. Even if we have to make them up ourselves; there should be an astrophysicists’ conspiracy to fake such signals. I imagine something like “Ok Earth-guys, whoever gets to Epsilon Eridani first owns it! Also, we demand a new season of Firefly.” (This would be troublesome, because it would mean they are very close already.)
[Obligatory Watchmen reference]
That’s not exactly how I remember the movie, but it was still entertaining. I liked that big guy. Klaatu barada nikto!
. . .
(Sorry, just stirring the pot.)
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