I strong upvoted this quite interesting post, but I want to mention that I do not mean my upvote to endorse this particular historical story of Socrates. This is because I have not read any Socrates nor read about his history, and I do not personally have confident beliefs about whether the Socrates in this post is the same as the historic one. (The list of historic details about Athens did me help understand the environment though.)
Edit: Upvote retracted, I realize this is a post criticizing Said that he cannot comment on.
It is, in fact, a generalized and timeless stance that I believe in, independent of Said, regardless of the fact that recent interactions with Said were among the more recent pushes for me to move it from somewhere-in-the-middle-of-my-pile-of-70-essays-to-write up to the top.
(A commenter on FB pointed out that I had formed the seed of this essay two years ago, probably around the time of Vaniver’s original comment, which was not about Said.)
Other commenters immediately recognizing Said in the content is not, I think, something that should result in your removing an upvote. And I also don’t think you would generally endorse a position of something like “don’t try to extract timeless or generalized lessons from specific experiences.” Said being an instance of a dynamic doesn’t mean describing the dynamic (without specific reference to him!) is bad.
I don’t know who’s enacting the psy-op; maybe it’s just society-at-large, but I claim “force this to be interpreted as an attack on a specific individual such that it now feels morally wrong to upvote it” is a psy-op.
I strong upvoted this quite interesting post, but I want to mention that I do not mean my upvote to endorse this particular historical story of Socrates. This is because I have not read any Socrates nor read about his history, and I do not personally have confident beliefs about whether the Socrates in this post is the same as the historic one. (The list of historic details about Athens did me help understand the environment though.)
Edit: Upvote retracted, I realize this is a post criticizing Said that he cannot comment on.
It is not.
It is, in fact, a generalized and timeless stance that I believe in, independent of Said, regardless of the fact that recent interactions with Said were among the more recent pushes for me to move it from somewhere-in-the-middle-of-my-pile-of-70-essays-to-write up to the top.
(A commenter on FB pointed out that I had formed the seed of this essay two years ago, probably around the time of Vaniver’s original comment, which was not about Said.)
Other commenters immediately recognizing Said in the content is not, I think, something that should result in your removing an upvote. And I also don’t think you would generally endorse a position of something like “don’t try to extract timeless or generalized lessons from specific experiences.” Said being an instance of a dynamic doesn’t mean describing the dynamic (without specific reference to him!) is bad.
I don’t know who’s enacting the psy-op; maybe it’s just society-at-large, but I claim “force this to be interpreted as an attack on a specific individual such that it now feels morally wrong to upvote it” is a psy-op.