It doesn’t seem unreasonable to go further and say that in large part the whole point of PUA is to bed Carols. Alices are up for a one night stand anyway, so manipulating them to suspend their usual protective strategies and engage in a one night stand with you would be as pointless as peeling a banana twice.
That sounds wrong. I dabbled in pickup a little bit and I would gladly accept a 2x boost in my attractiveness to Alices in exchange for total loss of attractiveness to Carols. If you think success with Alices is easy, I’d guess that either you didn’t try a lot, or you’re extremely attractive and don’t know it :-)
That sounds wrong. I dabbled in pickup a little bit and I would gladly accept a 2x boost in my attractiveness to Alices in exchange for total loss of attractiveness to Carols. If you think success with Alices is easy, I’d guess that either you didn’t try a lot, or you’re extremely attractive and don’t know it :-)
I wasn’t trying to say that bedding an Alice is “easy” full stop, just that if they find you attractive enough you won’t have to get them to lower their usual protective strategies to get them into bed the same night. That follows directly from how we have defined an Alice. Being an Alice doesn’t mean that they can’t be both choosy and in high demand though.
Carols are the ones who, regardless of how attractive they find you, don’t want to end up in bed that night and hence are the ones where the PUA has to specifically work to get them to lower their defences if the PUA wants that outcome.
ETA: This post seems to be getting hammered with downvotes, despite the fact that it’s doing nothing but clearing up a specific point of confusion about what was being expressed in the grandparent. I find that confusing. If the goal is to hide a subthread which is seen as unproductive it would seem more logical to hammer the parent.
That sounds wrong. I dabbled in pickup a little bit and I would gladly accept a 2x boost in my attractiveness to Alices in exchange for total loss of attractiveness to Carols. If you think success with Alices is easy, I’d guess that either you didn’t try a lot, or you’re extremely attractive and don’t know it :-)
I wasn’t trying to say that bedding an Alice is “easy” full stop, just that if they find you attractive enough you won’t have to get them to lower their usual protective strategies to get them into bed the same night. That follows directly from how we have defined an Alice. Being an Alice doesn’t mean that they can’t be both choosy and in high demand though.
Carols are the ones who, regardless of how attractive they find you, don’t want to end up in bed that night and hence are the ones where the PUA has to specifically work to get them to lower their defences if the PUA wants that outcome.
ETA: This post seems to be getting hammered with downvotes, despite the fact that it’s doing nothing but clearing up a specific point of confusion about what was being expressed in the grandparent. I find that confusing. If the goal is to hide a subthread which is seen as unproductive it would seem more logical to hammer the parent.
You admit it’s not easy, then turn right back around and say it shouldn’t require a lot of effort.