I’m guessing this is a case of “views that correlate with being less socially/culturally linked to analytic philosophers, will tend to correlate more with one-boxing”. But it would be wild if something were going on like:
Consequentialists two-box, because thinking about “consequences” primes you to accept the CDT argument that you should maximize your direct causal impact.
Deontologists two-box, because thinking about duties/principles primes you to accept the “I should do the capital-r Rational thing even if it’s not useful” argument.
Virtue ethicists one-box, because (a subset of) one-boxers are the ones talking about ‘making yourself into the right kind of agent’. (Or, more likely, virtue ethicists one-box just because they lack the other views’ reasons to two-box.)
Virtue ethicists one-box, because (a subset of) one-boxers are the ones talking about ‘making yourself into the right kind of agent’.
This seems sort of obvious to me, and I’m kind of surprised that only a bit over half of the virtue ethicists one-box.
[EDIT] I think I was giving the virtue ethicists too much credit and shouldn’t have been that surprised—this is actually a challenging situation to map onto traditional virtues, and ‘invent the new virtue for this situation’ is not that much a standard piece of virtue ethics. I would be surprised if only a bit over half of virtue ethicists pay up in Parfit’s Hitchhiker, even tho the problems are pretty equivalent.
53% of virtue ethicists one-box (out of those who picked a side).
Seems plausible that it’s for kinda-FDT-like reasons, since virtue ethics is about ‘be the kind of person who’ and that’s basically what matters when other agents are modeling you. It also fits with Eliezer’s semi-joking(?) tweet “The rules say we must use consequentialism, but good people are deontologists, and virtue ethics is what actually works.”
Whereas people who give the pragmatic response to external-world skepticism seem more likely to have “join the millionaires club” reasons for one-boxing.
This is fantastic.
… Virtue ethicists one-box?!
I’m guessing this is a case of “views that correlate with being less socially/culturally linked to analytic philosophers, will tend to correlate more with one-boxing”. But it would be wild if something were going on like:
Consequentialists two-box, because thinking about “consequences” primes you to accept the CDT argument that you should maximize your direct causal impact.
Deontologists two-box, because thinking about duties/principles primes you to accept the “I should do the capital-r Rational thing even if it’s not useful” argument.
Virtue ethicists one-box, because (a subset of) one-boxers are the ones talking about ‘making yourself into the right kind of agent’. (Or, more likely, virtue ethicists one-box just because they lack the other views’ reasons to two-box.)
This seems sort of obvious to me, and I’m kind of surprised that only a bit over half of the virtue ethicists one-box.
[EDIT] I think I was giving the virtue ethicists too much credit and shouldn’t have been that surprised—this is actually a challenging situation to map onto traditional virtues, and ‘invent the new virtue for this situation’ is not that much a standard piece of virtue ethics. I would be surprised if only a bit over half of virtue ethicists pay up in Parfit’s Hitchhiker, even tho the problems are pretty equivalent.
53% of virtue ethicists one-box (out of those who picked a side).
Seems plausible that it’s for kinda-FDT-like reasons, since virtue ethics is about ‘be the kind of person who’ and that’s basically what matters when other agents are modeling you. It also fits with Eliezer’s semi-joking(?) tweet “The rules say we must use consequentialism, but good people are deontologists, and virtue ethics is what actually works.”
Whereas people who give the pragmatic response to external-world skepticism seem more likely to have “join the millionaires club” reasons for one-boxing.
Taking the second box is greedy and greed is a vice. This might also explain one-boxing by Marxists.