There’s the ‘Not you’ and the ‘You’, with the former thinking it’s wrong, and the latter wanting to know the former’s reasoning and position.
Ok, the “You” person isn’t you. Sorry for conflating the two. (Probably because “You” is portrayed as the voice of reason, while “Not you” is the one given the idiot ball.) But if I look just at what the “You” person is saying, ignoring the interior monologue, they come across to me as I described. And if they speak that interior monologue, I won’t believe them. This is a topic on which there is no neutral frame, no neutral vocabulary. Every discussion of it consists primarily of attempts to frame the matter in a preferred way. Here’s a table comparing the two frames:
fetus unborn child
right to choose right to life
pro-choice pro-abortion
anti-choice anti-abortion
You can tell what side someone is on by the words they use.
No problem. If someone with your objection were to raise their concerns with the ‘You’ at the time of intercourse, I would recommend calmly requesting agreement on a word both agree as neutral; actually, this would be an excellent first step in ensuring the cooperation of both parties in seeking the truth, or least wrong or disagreeable position on the matter. What that word would be in this instance, besides fetus, I haven’t a clue—there may be no objectively neutral frame, from your perspective, however in each discourse all involved parties can create mutually agreed upon subjectively neutral vocabulary, if connotations truly do prove such an obstacle to productive communication. I am still for fetus as a neutral word, as it’s the scientific terminology. Pro-life scientists aren’t paradoxical.
Ok, the “You” person isn’t you. Sorry for conflating the two. (Probably because “You” is portrayed as the voice of reason, while “Not you” is the one given the idiot ball.) But if I look just at what the “You” person is saying, ignoring the interior monologue, they come across to me as I described. And if they speak that interior monologue, I won’t believe them. This is a topic on which there is no neutral frame, no neutral vocabulary. Every discussion of it consists primarily of attempts to frame the matter in a preferred way. Here’s a table comparing the two frames:
You can tell what side someone is on by the words they use.
No problem. If someone with your objection were to raise their concerns with the ‘You’ at the time of intercourse, I would recommend calmly requesting agreement on a word both agree as neutral; actually, this would be an excellent first step in ensuring the cooperation of both parties in seeking the truth, or least wrong or disagreeable position on the matter. What that word would be in this instance, besides fetus, I haven’t a clue—there may be no objectively neutral frame, from your perspective, however in each discourse all involved parties can create mutually agreed upon subjectively neutral vocabulary, if connotations truly do prove such an obstacle to productive communication. I am still for fetus as a neutral word, as it’s the scientific terminology. Pro-life scientists aren’t paradoxical.