No one is arguing that SBF didn’t run a scam because, as far as I can tell, most people on this site think SBF did run a scam (more specifically, stole his customers’ money to prop up his other business). There’s very little discussion of this here because the Less Wrong-adjacent EA Forum is more relevant, but the posts on that site are highly critical of SBF right now.
The problem with this post is a moderation issue: Less Wrong isn’t the right place to post songs about how bad people are, even if they are actually bad.
I already bowed to your authority to remove me if you don’t like what I said, in the earlier part with Gears: “If I am removed for this, you are well within your rights”. So, I’m still not disputing your authority to moderate. You strawman me if you claim that I was talking about “you shouldn’t get rid of my post”—I clearly have said otherwise.
The problem I addressed, of using an invalidation of the speaker to avoid the points made, still stands. That’s still an ad hominem, regardless of if you’re doing it for the sake of your community standards. Further, as I pointed out in an earlier reply—you all seem to disagree about why I shouldn’t be included, which was what made me laugh, responding to Gears. One says “don’t criticize people, stay vague”, another “okay to criticize leaders, no parody”, and now you say that the problem with it is that it’s a song, art instead of prose? Or, that it’s a song about a person, stay vague? Or that I’m not being nice talking about them?
No one is arguing that SBF didn’t run a scam because, as far as I can tell, most people on this site think SBF did run a scam (more specifically, stole his customers’ money to prop up his other business). There’s very little discussion of this here because the Less Wrong-adjacent EA Forum is more relevant, but the posts on that site are highly critical of SBF right now.
The problem with this post is a moderation issue: Less Wrong isn’t the right place to post songs about how bad people are, even if they are actually bad.
I already bowed to your authority to remove me if you don’t like what I said, in the earlier part with Gears: “If I am removed for this, you are well within your rights”. So, I’m still not disputing your authority to moderate. You strawman me if you claim that I was talking about “you shouldn’t get rid of my post”—I clearly have said otherwise.
The problem I addressed, of using an invalidation of the speaker to avoid the points made, still stands. That’s still an ad hominem, regardless of if you’re doing it for the sake of your community standards. Further, as I pointed out in an earlier reply—you all seem to disagree about why I shouldn’t be included, which was what made me laugh, responding to Gears. One says “don’t criticize people, stay vague”, another “okay to criticize leaders, no parody”, and now you say that the problem with it is that it’s a song, art instead of prose? Or, that it’s a song about a person, stay vague? Or that I’m not being nice talking about them?