If any of the others are particularly enthusiastic about this and expect it to be high-value, sure!
That said, I personally don’t expect it to be particularly productive.
These sorts of long-standing disagreements haven’t historically been resolvable via debate (the failure of Hanson vs. Yudkowsky is kind of foundational to the field).
I think there’s great value in having a public discussion nonetheless, but I think it’s in informing the readers’ models of what different sides believe.
Thus, inasmuch as we’re having a public discussion, I think it should be optimized for thoroughly laying out one’s points to the audience.
However, dialogues-as-a-feature seem to be more valuable to the participants, and are actually harder to grok for readers.
Thus, my preferred method for discussing this sort of stuff is to exchange top-level posts trying to refute each other (the way this post is, to a significant extent, a response to the AI is easy to control article), and then maybe argue a bit in the comments. But not to have a giant tedious top-level argument.
I’d actually been planning to make a post about the difficulties the “classical alignment views” have with making empirical predictions, and I guess I can prioritize it more?
But I’m overall pretty burned out on this sort of arguing. (And arguing about “what would count as empirical evidence for you?” generally feels like too-meta fake work, compared to just going out and trying to directly dredge up some evidence.)
If any of the others are particularly enthusiastic about this and expect it to be high-value, sure!
That said, I personally don’t expect it to be particularly productive.
These sorts of long-standing disagreements haven’t historically been resolvable via debate (the failure of Hanson vs. Yudkowsky is kind of foundational to the field).
I think there’s great value in having a public discussion nonetheless, but I think it’s in informing the readers’ models of what different sides believe.
Thus, inasmuch as we’re having a public discussion, I think it should be optimized for thoroughly laying out one’s points to the audience.
However, dialogues-as-a-feature seem to be more valuable to the participants, and are actually harder to grok for readers.
Thus, my preferred method for discussing this sort of stuff is to exchange top-level posts trying to refute each other (the way this post is, to a significant extent, a response to the AI is easy to control article), and then maybe argue a bit in the comments. But not to have a giant tedious top-level argument.
I’d actually been planning to make a post about the difficulties the “classical alignment views” have with making empirical predictions, and I guess I can prioritize it more?
But I’m overall pretty burned out on this sort of arguing. (And arguing about “what would count as empirical evidence for you?” generally feels like too-meta fake work, compared to just going out and trying to directly dredge up some evidence.)