I meant: If a person says , and you say “oh, you probably meant ”, you gave them an opportunity to save face. When you do this to a group of people, you give them an opportunity to switch to the smart opinion without feeling like betraying their tribe. And if only a part of the group changes their mind, without this option they would probably leave the group, but with this option they can stay and perhaps the smart opinion will some day really become the official version.
Sure, I understand the general case. It’s the specific case I’m being confused by. What is the stupid statement being made, and what is the similar-sounding smart statement you’re endorsing using instead?
The stupid thing is “there is no female privilege”. The smart thing is your steelman of it, “aggregating across all scenarios, males have a higher privilege score than females”.
The difference between “men have more advantages than women” which I guess is true, and “women have absolutely no advantage, ever” which seems to me obviously false, but is how I would naturally unpack “there is no female privilege”.
I meant: If a person says , and you say “oh, you probably meant ”, you gave them an opportunity to save face. When you do this to a group of people, you give them an opportunity to switch to the smart opinion without feeling like betraying their tribe. And if only a part of the group changes their mind, without this option they would probably leave the group, but with this option they can stay and perhaps the smart opinion will some day really become the official version.
Sure, I understand the general case. It’s the specific case I’m being confused by. What is the stupid statement being made, and what is the similar-sounding smart statement you’re endorsing using instead?
The stupid thing is “there is no female privilege”. The smart thing is your steelman of it, “aggregating across all scenarios, males have a higher privilege score than females”.
I would be surprised if that’s what ViliamBur meant, but I have no objection to the statement, modulo emotional connotations.
Actually, I did mean exactly that.
The difference between “men have more advantages than women” which I guess is true, and “women have absolutely no advantage, ever” which seems to me obviously false, but is how I would naturally unpack “there is no female privilege”.
Ah, OK. (I am, in fact, surprised.) Thanks for clarifying.