OK. In most cases, so far as I am aware, we have no idea what brain structure differences those are (or indeed whether they are differences in brain structure rather than, e.g., the behaviours in question being learned or a consequence of hormonal differences). What if the person’s behaviour is much nearer typical-female than typical-male in these respects?
What if the person’s behaviour is much nearer typical-female than typical-male in these respects?
Well in the most prominent cases, e.g., Bruce Jenner, this does not appear to be the case. Now are you willing to admit that he’s wrong about his claimed gender?
I regret that I don’t find “VoiceOfRa doesn’t find Jenner’s behaviour sufficiently feminine” a very strong argument. I haven’t myself paid much attention to the Jenner case; would you care to be more explicit about what you have in mind?
Now are you willing to admit that he’s wrong [...]?
Why should I do that? Unless I’ve completely lost the thread here (which I’m pretty sure I haven’t) what we’re discussing here is your criteria for determining someone’s gender, not mine.
(I thought I’d carefully avoided making assertions that go beyond my knowledge, but maybe I slipped up and said more than I meant to or wasn’t clear about what I was saying.)
OK. In most cases, so far as I am aware, we have no idea what brain structure differences those are (or indeed whether they are differences in brain structure rather than, e.g., the behaviours in question being learned or a consequence of hormonal differences). What if the person’s behaviour is much nearer typical-female than typical-male in these respects?
Well in the most prominent cases, e.g., Bruce Jenner, this does not appear to be the case. Now are you willing to admit that he’s wrong about his claimed gender?
I regret that I don’t find “VoiceOfRa doesn’t find Jenner’s behaviour sufficiently feminine” a very strong argument. I haven’t myself paid much attention to the Jenner case; would you care to be more explicit about what you have in mind?
Why should I do that? Unless I’ve completely lost the thread here (which I’m pretty sure I haven’t) what we’re discussing here is your criteria for determining someone’s gender, not mine.
Well, you were making assertions about it with rather a lot of confidence up thread.
Please give two examples.
(I thought I’d carefully avoided making assertions that go beyond my knowledge, but maybe I slipped up and said more than I meant to or wasn’t clear about what I was saying.)