I was not trying to “Motte-and Bailey” the term “stereotype” but genuinely having a hard time grasping at a less charged term but still had the cluster of traits
When people engage in bad reasoning because politics mind-killed them it’s generally not because they try to reason badly.
And if others don’t think this discussion is fruitful
It’s not just that, it’s also potentially costly to have the discussion on LessWrong.
in a clear and concise way other than “stereotypes” or “stereotyping”.
Given that there are bailey-and-motte issues, it’s not a clear term. Why do you believe you need a concise way instead of tabooing and explain the cluster that you mean? Having political charged conversations in less concise ways reduces the potential costs of having them.
just like people rationally admit to “generalizing from one example”—I do myself
It worth noting here that people who form their opinion by “generalizing from one example” instead of by listening to common media are not stereotyping in your classification when they judge people by that generalization.
It worth noting here that people who form their opinion by “generalizing from one example” instead of by listening to common media are not stereotyping in your classification when they judge people by that generalization.
Yes, indeed it would run counter to it. I didn’t mean that “generalizing from one example” is “like stereotyping”in that they are similar in what type of reasoning they are, but meant to say they are similar as an example of something people could rationally admit to doing (admit to stereotyping, just like admit to generalizing from one example) and acknowledge the existence of or debate the usefulness of.
When people engage in bad reasoning because politics mind-killed them it’s generally not because they try to reason badly.
It’s not just that, it’s also potentially costly to have the discussion on LessWrong.
Given that there are bailey-and-motte issues, it’s not a clear term. Why do you believe you need a concise way instead of tabooing and explain the cluster that you mean? Having political charged conversations in less concise ways reduces the potential costs of having them.
It worth noting here that people who form their opinion by “generalizing from one example” instead of by listening to common media are not stereotyping in your classification when they judge people by that generalization.
It worth noting here that people who form their opinion by “generalizing from one example” instead of by listening to common media are not stereotyping in your classification when they judge people by that generalization.
Yes, indeed it would run counter to it. I didn’t mean that “generalizing from one example” is “like stereotyping”in that they are similar in what type of reasoning they are, but meant to say they are similar as an example of something people could rationally admit to doing (admit to stereotyping, just like admit to generalizing from one example) and acknowledge the existence of or debate the usefulness of.