And my impression is that people are only really weirded out by these songs on behalf of other people who are only weirded out by them on behalf of other people.
Be careful, though. How much of that is really “only weirded out on behalf of other people”, and how much of it is “weirded out themselves, but think it would be more socially acceptable to claim to be weirded out on behalf of other people”? After all, being weirded out yourself may signal that you don’t want to be part of the group. Being offended “on behalf of other people” is a way to express your offense while trying not to signal the wrong thing.
Definitely possible—I was careful to follow this up with ‘if this does actually bother you I definitely want to know about it’ and I did mean that seriously.
I haven’t gotten ZERO personal concerns over it (I think I’ve gotten about one and a half complaints about When I Die, which is dramatically fewer complaints than I get about other aspects of the Solstice that are less juicing controversial)
Maybe. (If you have a suggested solution to that issue, let me know)
But honestly I don’t think your interpretation is that likely. a) most of this feedback is on anonymous forms, and the people who I talk to in person I talk to enough to get a pretty comprehensive understanding of their concerns.
b) This community in general does not seem to have a problem criticizing itself.
I think it is much more likely that people are made uncomfortable about whether it is socially acceptable to unironically enjoy x-risk memes and risk being judged by people outside or less involved with the Less Wrong community, than to be uncomfortable for personal reasons and then fear being judged from within the x-risky elements of LW.
Be careful, though. How much of that is really “only weirded out on behalf of other people”, and how much of it is “weirded out themselves, but think it would be more socially acceptable to claim to be weirded out on behalf of other people”? After all, being weirded out yourself may signal that you don’t want to be part of the group. Being offended “on behalf of other people” is a way to express your offense while trying not to signal the wrong thing.
Definitely possible—I was careful to follow this up with ‘if this does actually bother you I definitely want to know about it’ and I did mean that seriously.
I haven’t gotten ZERO personal concerns over it (I think I’ve gotten about one and a half complaints about When I Die, which is dramatically fewer complaints than I get about other aspects of the Solstice that are less juicing controversial)
You can’t necessarily get someone to act as though a signal isn’t a signal by saying “I won’t count it as a signal”.
Maybe. (If you have a suggested solution to that issue, let me know)
But honestly I don’t think your interpretation is that likely. a) most of this feedback is on anonymous forms, and the people who I talk to in person I talk to enough to get a pretty comprehensive understanding of their concerns.
b) This community in general does not seem to have a problem criticizing itself.
I think it is much more likely that people are made uncomfortable about whether it is socially acceptable to unironically enjoy x-risk memes and risk being judged by people outside or less involved with the Less Wrong community, than to be uncomfortable for personal reasons and then fear being judged from within the x-risky elements of LW.