It’s so difficult to find someone who will communicate on our level and yet disagrees on object-level things.
Probably the best way to get more contrarians, is for folks from Less Wrong to learn from people outside the community, change their own beliefs because of it, and come back to share their wisdom with the masses.
It’s so difficult to find someone who will communicate on our level and yet disagrees on object-level things.
Is this because people smart enough to communicate on our level largely agree with a lot of what is generally agreed on here, for the same reason that most people all agree that 2+2=4?
Or is it because LessWrong is, for reasons unconnected with rationality, largely drawn from a certain very narrow demographic range, who grab onto this constellation of ideas like an enzyme to its substrate, and “communicating on our level” just means being that sort of person?
Probably both, mostly the latter. Noting that “being that sort of person” refers to the demographic range, and not necessarily agreeing with those ideas.
You are supposed to be familiar with many standard arguments; but many of them make no sense if you have different priors, because they have too little evidence on their side (AI researcher interview series seems to illustrate well that some kind of experience can give you evidence against a few key points).
If you find Hanson’s arguments about the core of FOOM concept stronger than Eliezer’s, you will have less incentive to familiarize yourself to everything that you should remember to communicate on what you called “our level”, because it makes no sense without this key point.
So disagreement on object level in the very beginning leads to infamilarity with required things. Nothing too strange here.
It’s so difficult to find someone who will communicate on our level and yet disagrees on object-level things.
Probably the best way to get more contrarians, is for folks from Less Wrong to learn from people outside the community, change their own beliefs because of it, and come back to share their wisdom with the masses.
Okay, that sounded better in my head too.
Is this because people smart enough to communicate on our level largely agree with a lot of what is generally agreed on here, for the same reason that most people all agree that 2+2=4?
Or is it because LessWrong is, for reasons unconnected with rationality, largely drawn from a certain very narrow demographic range, who grab onto this constellation of ideas like an enzyme to its substrate, and “communicating on our level” just means being that sort of person?
Probably both, mostly the latter. Noting that “being that sort of person” refers to the demographic range, and not necessarily agreeing with those ideas.
It is not just about demographic.
You are supposed to be familiar with many standard arguments; but many of them make no sense if you have different priors, because they have too little evidence on their side (AI researcher interview series seems to illustrate well that some kind of experience can give you evidence against a few key points).
If you find Hanson’s arguments about the core of FOOM concept stronger than Eliezer’s, you will have less incentive to familiarize yourself to everything that you should remember to communicate on what you called “our level”, because it makes no sense without this key point.
So disagreement on object level in the very beginning leads to infamilarity with required things. Nothing too strange here.