I look forward to seeing what it feels like once it’s just part of things. Currently, it feels like complexity and distraction for pretty low information value.
Also, why the indirect metaphor text of “agreement up/down vote”, rather than much more straightforward “agree/disagree” labels? I’m not sure about the x/check icons—I can’t think of better, though it doesn’t quite feel right, especially because it’s next to the left/right voting icons, which never seemed weird to me, but now they kind of do. I do like the detailed hover text, and it makes me continue to be grateful that I’m not usually on mobile on this site.
Also, also—it’s a bit confusing that karma defaults to a normal upvote by the poster, but the agreement defaults to none (but it can be added by the poster if they actually agree with themselves)?
Also, also—it’s a bit confusing that karma defaults to a normal upvote by the poster, but the agreement defaults to none (but it can be added by the poster if they actually agree with themselves)?
On this point, I suggest making it so that people cannot vote agree/disagree on their own comments. It’s one thing to say “I find my own comment here so valuable that I use a strong upvote on it so more people see it”—that’s weird and somewhat discouraged by the community, but at least carries some information.
But what’s the equivalent supposed to be for agreement? “I find my own comment so correct that I strongly agree with it”? Just disallow that in the software.
As someone who regularly has the almost-habit of unrolling multiple perspectives but finds it difficult to express outwardly, and does in fact have different levels of agreement with (or, if you want to get first-person, “confidence in” perhaps?) things I write, I would appreciate the ability to signal this.
On the karma axis, I have also retrospectively gone back and weak-downvoted my own comments on occasion when I changed my mind about whether they were net good for (my idea of what) the site (intends to be)—including ones that a number of other people had upvoted.
I look forward to seeing what it feels like once it’s just part of things. Currently, it feels like complexity and distraction for pretty low information value.
Also, why the indirect metaphor text of “agreement up/down vote”, rather than much more straightforward “agree/disagree” labels? I’m not sure about the x/check icons—I can’t think of better, though it doesn’t quite feel right, especially because it’s next to the left/right voting icons, which never seemed weird to me, but now they kind of do. I do like the detailed hover text, and it makes me continue to be grateful that I’m not usually on mobile on this site.
Also, also—it’s a bit confusing that karma defaults to a normal upvote by the poster, but the agreement defaults to none (but it can be added by the poster if they actually agree with themselves)?
On this point, I suggest making it so that people cannot vote agree/disagree on their own comments. It’s one thing to say “I find my own comment here so valuable that I use a strong upvote on it so more people see it”—that’s weird and somewhat discouraged by the community, but at least carries some information.
But what’s the equivalent supposed to be for agreement? “I find my own comment so correct that I strongly agree with it”? Just disallow that in the software.
Now I’m imagining someone writing a devil’s advocate kind of comment they themselves disagree with, and then strong-downvoting agreement.
As someone who regularly has the almost-habit of unrolling multiple perspectives but finds it difficult to express outwardly, and does in fact have different levels of agreement with (or, if you want to get first-person, “confidence in” perhaps?) things I write, I would appreciate the ability to signal this.
On the karma axis, I have also retrospectively gone back and weak-downvoted my own comments on occasion when I changed my mind about whether they were net good for (my idea of what) the site (intends to be)—including ones that a number of other people had upvoted.
Strong disagree
Agree
Yeah, this does just seem weird. Agree that we should just label them “agree/disagree”.
Aside from finding the wording confusing to start with, there is a sign error in the disagreement text where it still says “for strong upvote” below.