I’m not sure you saw my point here. Yes VDARE is a politically oriented site, its goal being immigration restriction thus duh some people with racist attitudes are probably writing for it. Selectively applying such standards for the discussion of some policy issues seems like a bad idea. I can see your point if I was citing someone with a very poor reputation who happens to be right, but I don’t at all agree citing someone who is ok when it comes to data and its interpretation, who happens to have written for a magazine that sometimes isn’t ok.
Here is a statement of editorial policy from VDARE:
We’ve said repeatedly that VDARE.COM is not a White Nationalist webzine—but that we do publish White Nationalists because we regard their focus on white interests as at least as legitimate as Black Nationalism, Hispanic Nationalism, Zionism, etc…and as an inevitable development in the Brave New America created by mass immigration.
Based on this, I don’t know if I’d classify VDARE as a hate group, but I would classify it as racist.
The disclaimer I’ve quoted comes before a piece written by Jared Taylor. VDARE goes on to describe him as “perhaps the most brilliant and accomplished figure among White Nationalists”. This is a man who has written elsewhere: “Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight.” It might be denotationally accurate that he is one of the most brilliant and accomplished White Nationalists, but I don’t like the connotations.
It might be denotationally accurate that he is one of the most brilliant and accomplished White Nationalists, but I don’t like the connotations.
In that case I recommend you make it possible for people to discuss said denotations without automatically being lumped with said connotations. See Eric Raymound’s post on not ceding the truth to racists.
My opinion on the site:
Here is a statement of editorial policy from VDARE:
Based on this, I don’t know if I’d classify VDARE as a hate group, but I would classify it as racist.
The disclaimer I’ve quoted comes before a piece written by Jared Taylor. VDARE goes on to describe him as “perhaps the most brilliant and accomplished figure among White Nationalists”. This is a man who has written elsewhere: “Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight.” It might be denotationally accurate that he is one of the most brilliant and accomplished White Nationalists, but I don’t like the connotations.
In that case I recommend you make it possible for people to discuss said denotations without automatically being lumped with said connotations. See Eric Raymound’s post on not ceding the truth to racists.
I agree. It is not honest intellectually to stop discussion.
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell.