I’d be willing to eat animals if I thought that could help me help others more effectively.[1] So I appreciate the post where you try to provide some relevant evidence, and I really appreciate your commitment to do what’s expedient for helping you save me, the people I love, and countless others from disaster—because that’s clearly where you’re coming from.
Otoh, my health seems unusually peak, despite the (somewhat unusual) vegan[2] diet I eat, so it seems unlikely I’m suffering from a crippling deficiency atm. This could be because either me or my body has somehow managed to compensate (psychologically or homeostatically) for whatever’s lacking in our diet, but it seems more likely that the peak-health thing is something that requires an adequate diet, so my guess is that I can’t un-inadequate it by eating animals?
My crux is just that I don’t have the self-experimentation setup to be able to detect the delta benefit/cost of eating animals, and that the range of plausible deltas there seems insufficient for me to invest in the experiment.
Sorry for confusementedly writing. I’m mainly just trying to reflect here, and wanted to write a comment to stabilize my commitment to go to extremes (like eating animals) in order to pursue altruism. I’d be happy if somebody convinced me it was worth the experiment, but this post didn’t bop me over the threshold. Thanks!
(I’d also be willing to murder random people and cook them for the same reason, if I thought that could help me help others more effectively. That seems less likely, however, for nutritional, practical, and psychological reasons. I just mention it because I think some morality-declarations are helpfwl.)
If people want to add to their anecdata, my details are:
vegan for 12 years.
major history with major depression (started before).
deep depressions stopped (afaict, so far) when I started taking ADHD-meds (first LDX, and now DEX) 2.5 years ago.
this is confounded by other simultaneous major life changes, like starting coworking on EA Gather Town (and meeting person I respected & Liked, who told me I wasn’t insane for thinking different, and taught me to trust in myself ^^), so take the anecdata with grains of salt.
I’d be willing to eat animals if I thought that could help me help others more effectively.[1] So I appreciate the post where you try to provide some relevant evidence, and I really appreciate your commitment to do what’s expedient for helping you save me, the people I love, and countless others from disaster—because that’s clearly where you’re coming from.
Otoh, my health seems unusually peak, despite the (somewhat unusual) vegan[2] diet I eat, so it seems unlikely I’m suffering from a crippling deficiency atm. This could be because either me or my body has somehow managed to compensate (psychologically or homeostatically) for whatever’s lacking in our diet, but it seems more likely that the peak-health thing is something that requires an adequate diet, so my guess is that I can’t un-inadequate it by eating animals?
My crux is just that I don’t have the self-experimentation setup to be able to detect the delta benefit/cost of eating animals, and that the range of plausible deltas there seems insufficient for me to invest in the experiment.
Sorry for confusementedly writing. I’m mainly just trying to reflect here, and wanted to write a comment to stabilize my commitment to go to extremes (like eating animals) in order to pursue altruism. I’d be happy if somebody convinced me it was worth the experiment, but this post didn’t bop me over the threshold. Thanks!
(I’d also be willing to murder random people and cook them for the same reason, if I thought that could help me help others more effectively. That seems less likely, however, for nutritional, practical, and psychological reasons. I just mention it because I think some morality-declarations are helpfwl.)
If people want to add to their anecdata, my details are:
vegan for 12 years.
major history with major depression (started before).
deep depressions stopped (afaict, so far) when I started taking ADHD-meds (first LDX, and now DEX) 2.5 years ago.
this is confounded by other simultaneous major life changes, like starting coworking on EA Gather Town (and meeting person I respected & Liked, who told me I wasn’t insane for thinking different, and taught me to trust in myself ^^), so take the anecdata with grains of salt.