I’m not interested in being part of a unified policy on the content of introduction threads. That said, if broad agreement emerges on such a policy ought to exist, I’m willing to stay out of intro threads altogether rather than violate it.
I’ll stay out of intro threads rather than violate an extant content policy that has broad agreement because to do otherwise seems rude.
But in the absence of such a policy I don’t have any desire to create one, for many of the same reasons that I don’t endorse the recurring “LW should behave differently so as to be more hospitable and compelling to the sorts of people who don’t find LW’s current behavior hospitable or compelling” threads. It strikes me as an attempt to alter the local social norms to reflect those of the broader mainstream culture, and I don’t see any real value to that.
Yes! When I read “being part of a unified policy” I interpreted that as “following the policy” rather than “creating the policy.” It seemed odd to me that the existence of the policy would be enough to muzzle you, regardless of the policy’s actual contents. And it should have seemed odd, because I had misinterpreted what you wrote.
It strikes me as an attempt to alter the local social norms to reflect those of the broader mainstream culture, and I don’t see any real value to that.
I am also skeptical of the value of attempting to alter the local norms. But I think it’s worthwhile to contemplate / articulate / discover this narrow subset of the norms, because there seem to be many small discussions / interactions about them that would benefit from being centralized.
Awesome. I love it when communication works. Thanks for asking.
Your point about norm discovery is well taken. I share your sense of that being worthwhile.
Thinking about it some more, it’s clear to me that I’m assuming that the actual discussions would be so choked by people who have already written their bottom lines and merely wish to implement them that any actual discovery that took place would just not be worth the effort. If that assumption proved false, I’d likely find myself much more interested in the subject.
Just to be clear, I’m not implying that people ought not attempt to implement their preferred bottom lines, merely that I’m unlikely to be interested in participating in the process myself.
Interesting! Able/willing to articulate why?
Which part?
I’ll stay out of intro threads rather than violate an extant content policy that has broad agreement because to do otherwise seems rude.
But in the absence of such a policy I don’t have any desire to create one, for many of the same reasons that I don’t endorse the recurring “LW should behave differently so as to be more hospitable and compelling to the sorts of people who don’t find LW’s current behavior hospitable or compelling” threads. It strikes me as an attempt to alter the local social norms to reflect those of the broader mainstream culture, and I don’t see any real value to that.
Does that help?
Yes! When I read “being part of a unified policy” I interpreted that as “following the policy” rather than “creating the policy.” It seemed odd to me that the existence of the policy would be enough to muzzle you, regardless of the policy’s actual contents. And it should have seemed odd, because I had misinterpreted what you wrote.
I am also skeptical of the value of attempting to alter the local norms. But I think it’s worthwhile to contemplate / articulate / discover this narrow subset of the norms, because there seem to be many small discussions / interactions about them that would benefit from being centralized.
Awesome. I love it when communication works. Thanks for asking.
Your point about norm discovery is well taken. I share your sense of that being worthwhile.
Thinking about it some more, it’s clear to me that I’m assuming that the actual discussions would be so choked by people who have already written their bottom lines and merely wish to implement them that any actual discovery that took place would just not be worth the effort. If that assumption proved false, I’d likely find myself much more interested in the subject.
Just to be clear, I’m not implying that people ought not attempt to implement their preferred bottom lines, merely that I’m unlikely to be interested in participating in the process myself.