I would guess they heard about it. maybe read a wiki article sometime, and that’s all. Link a statement by either where they post about AI having a limitation? What else they have? I only see handwaving, mosty indicative of them not really even knowing the words they use. If they had degrees I would have to assume they probably, sometime in the past, have passed an exam (which is not a good evidence of competence either, but at least is something).
edit: To clarify. I do not refer to “research associates”, see grandchild post.
Speaking of which, a couple days ago I noticed that a technobabble justification of atheism because theism fails “Solomonoff induction” which I seen before and determined to be complete idiocy (I am an atheist too) is by same Luke as at SIAI. Not only he doesn’t know what Solomonoff induction is, he also lacks the wits to know he doesn’t know.
He heard about it though, and uses it as technobabble slighty better than script writers would. Ultimately, SIAI people are very talented technobabble generators and that seem to be the extent of it. I’m not giving a slightest benefit of the doubt if I see that people do make technobabble. (I used to give in the past, which resulted in me reading sense into nonsense; because of ambiguity of human language, you can form sentences such that the statement is actually generated when one is reading your sentence, and you can do that without actually generating that statement yourself).
If you want to change my view, you better actually link some posts that are evidence for them knowing something instead of calling what i say a ‘rant’.
If they had degrees I would have to assume they probably, sometime in the past, have passed an exam (which is not a good evidence of competence either, but at least is something).
I count only 1 out of 11 SIAI researcher not having a degree. (Paul Christiano’s bio hasn’t been updated yet, but he told me he just graduated from MIT). Click these links if you want to check for yourself.
If you want to change my view, you better actually link some posts that are evidence for them knowing something instead of calling what i say a ‘rant’.
I no longer have much hope of changing your views, but rather want to encourage you to make some positive contributions (like your belief propagation graph idea) despite having views that I consider to be wrong. (I can’t resist pointing out some of the more blatant errors though, like the above.)
In resident faculty i see two people, Eliezer and someone with a degree in mathematics, unspecific, with two years of work somewhere else.
In the associates I see people whose extent of association or agreement with the position I do not know. edit: I know though that Ben been there, and Kurzweil too, people with very different views from that of SIAI, or now SI)
As the most publicly visible I see Luke and Eliezer. edit: to whom i refer as them, as the rest looks like replaceable chaff chosen for not disagreeing with the core.
I’m sure they know it. It’s just since they don’t do much actual coding, it’s not all that available to them.
I would guess they heard about it. maybe read a wiki article sometime, and that’s all. Link a statement by either where they post about AI having a limitation? What else they have? I only see handwaving, mosty indicative of them not really even knowing the words they use. If they had degrees I would have to assume they probably, sometime in the past, have passed an exam (which is not a good evidence of competence either, but at least is something).
edit: To clarify. I do not refer to “research associates”, see grandchild post.
Speaking of which, a couple days ago I noticed that a technobabble justification of atheism because theism fails “Solomonoff induction” which I seen before and determined to be complete idiocy (I am an atheist too) is by same Luke as at SIAI. Not only he doesn’t know what Solomonoff induction is, he also lacks the wits to know he doesn’t know.
He heard about it though, and uses it as technobabble slighty better than script writers would. Ultimately, SIAI people are very talented technobabble generators and that seem to be the extent of it. I’m not giving a slightest benefit of the doubt if I see that people do make technobabble. (I used to give in the past, which resulted in me reading sense into nonsense; because of ambiguity of human language, you can form sentences such that the statement is actually generated when one is reading your sentence, and you can do that without actually generating that statement yourself).
If you want to change my view, you better actually link some posts that are evidence for them knowing something instead of calling what i say a ‘rant’.
I count only 1 out of 11 SIAI researcher not having a degree. (Paul Christiano’s bio hasn’t been updated yet, but he told me he just graduated from MIT). Click these links if you want to check for yourself.
http://singinst.org/research/residentfaculty
http://singinst.org/aboutus/researchassociates
I no longer have much hope of changing your views, but rather want to encourage you to make some positive contributions (like your belief propagation graph idea) despite having views that I consider to be wrong. (I can’t resist pointing out some of the more blatant errors though, like the above.)
In resident faculty i see two people, Eliezer and someone with a degree in mathematics, unspecific, with two years of work somewhere else.
In the associates I see people whose extent of association or agreement with the position I do not know. edit: I know though that Ben been there, and Kurzweil too, people with very different views from that of SIAI, or now SI)
As the most publicly visible I see Luke and Eliezer. edit: to whom i refer as them, as the rest looks like replaceable chaff chosen for not disagreeing with the core.