If your discussion partner is actively impeding clarification because that furthers his goals, then your problem isn’t his lack of familiarity with the metaphor of map and territory, and your real problem isn’t clarification but helping get past his unhelpful motivations.
If your discussion partner is actively impeding clarification because that furthers his goals, then your problem isn’t his lack of familiarity with the metaphor of map and territory, and your real problem isn’t clarification but helping get past his unhelpful motivations.