Then I heard that the temperature increases preceded the CO2 emissions by about 800 years...
Source?
I have lots of reasons for believing in climate change I could quote at you, but they can mainly be found on the relevant wikipedia pages (so I assume you’ve already looked at them). So why am I putting more credence on those arguments than you? (Assuming we’re both equally rational/sane/intelligent).
What it comes down to when you abstract from individual arguments, is that those who have most domain specific expertise strongly believe it to be true. In general it is best to trust experts in a particular domain unless you have strong reasons to believe that field is flawed. Absent improbable conspiracy theories I have no reason to in this case.
Teacher in a geology class who is decidedly non-rationalist mentioned that 800 years thing, without a source. Something about thickness of a line.
This is the first topic I’ve found in which I have no idea how to dissect this and figure out what’s going on. It appears that there are incredibly powerful arguments for both sides, and mountains of strong evidence both for and against human caused climate change… Which shouldn’t be possible. A lot of the skeptics seem to have strong arguments countering many of the “alarmist” ideas...
I’m not a good enough rationalist for this, yet. If it weren’t for this community’s famous support of global warming, there is no way I’d believe in it, given the data I have. Strange.
I’m not sure it’s worth posting sources and the like, counter-counter arguments become difficult to follow, and it could easily cause a kurfuffle that I would rather avoid.
The lag is a phenomenon of the ice age cycle, which is caused by orbital shifts but amplified by emission or absorption of carbon dioxide by the ocean. It takes the ocean about a thousand years to respond to changed atmospheric temperature.
Source?
I have lots of reasons for believing in climate change I could quote at you, but they can mainly be found on the relevant wikipedia pages (so I assume you’ve already looked at them). So why am I putting more credence on those arguments than you? (Assuming we’re both equally rational/sane/intelligent).
What it comes down to when you abstract from individual arguments, is that those who have most domain specific expertise strongly believe it to be true. In general it is best to trust experts in a particular domain unless you have strong reasons to believe that field is flawed. Absent improbable conspiracy theories I have no reason to in this case.
Teacher in a geology class who is decidedly non-rationalist mentioned that 800 years thing, without a source. Something about thickness of a line.
This is the first topic I’ve found in which I have no idea how to dissect this and figure out what’s going on. It appears that there are incredibly powerful arguments for both sides, and mountains of strong evidence both for and against human caused climate change… Which shouldn’t be possible. A lot of the skeptics seem to have strong arguments countering many of the “alarmist” ideas...
I’m not a good enough rationalist for this, yet. If it weren’t for this community’s famous support of global warming, there is no way I’d believe in it, given the data I have. Strange.
I’m not sure it’s worth posting sources and the like, counter-counter arguments become difficult to follow, and it could easily cause a kurfuffle that I would rather avoid.
Thank you all greatly!
The lag is a phenomenon of the ice age cycle, which is caused by orbital shifts but amplified by emission or absorption of carbon dioxide by the ocean. It takes the ocean about a thousand years to respond to changed atmospheric temperature.