I have talked to Ray about my objection about the stag hunt framing multiple times, and iirc I haven’t had this conversation with Duncan. Often talking to people about what I think is enough that I mostly let go of it and stop thinking about it, but so far it’s still on my mind.
cached-ish thoughts fleshing out further my allergy to the stag hunt framing
something about how ime irl it’s a yellow flag when I’m confident about wanting a particular social outcome before I have it??? this doesn’t seem quite right, and I think I have a more true longer version but not a more true short version
there’s something about the whole “coordination problem” frame that I react to as though there’s an error already baked in, and I notably don’t have this reaction to people talking about there being a failure of leadership, and moooostly don’t have it when people talk about “cultural problems’
I think my worry with the framing is the unexamined implication that it’s ONLY a coordination problem. In fact, many times it’s an alignment problem—participants expect different payouts/rewards than exactly 1/n of the sum.
Yeah, in some basic sense I totally agree with you, and also I still get the sense that the vectors of coordination and alignment are fundamental missing the point (again, in a way that leadership and culture aren’t really).
Oh, and I think I do have disagreements (or something?) with the longer form stuff people have written about stag hunts/cooperation, but they are some combination of “less of a disagreement” and “harder to pinpoint”, which interests me as a phenomenon in and of itself.
I have talked to Ray about my objection about the stag hunt framing multiple times, and iirc I haven’t had this conversation with Duncan. Often talking to people about what I think is enough that I mostly let go of it and stop thinking about it, but so far it’s still on my mind.
cached-ish thoughts fleshing out further my allergy to the stag hunt framing
something about how ime irl it’s a yellow flag when I’m confident about wanting a particular social outcome before I have it??? this doesn’t seem quite right, and I think I have a more true longer version but not a more true short version
there’s something about the whole “coordination problem” frame that I react to as though there’s an error already baked in, and I notably don’t have this reaction to people talking about there being a failure of leadership, and moooostly don’t have it when people talk about “cultural problems’
I think my worry with the framing is the unexamined implication that it’s ONLY a coordination problem. In fact, many times it’s an alignment problem—participants expect different payouts/rewards than exactly 1/n of the sum.
Yeah, in some basic sense I totally agree with you, and also I still get the sense that the vectors of coordination and alignment are fundamental missing the point (again, in a way that leadership and culture aren’t really).
Oh, and I think I do have disagreements (or something?) with the longer form stuff people have written about stag hunts/cooperation, but they are some combination of “less of a disagreement” and “harder to pinpoint”, which interests me as a phenomenon in and of itself.