I prefer this formulation, because you emphasize on the representational aspect. Now a representation (a conceptualization) requires someone that conceptualize/represents things. I think that this “useful and clarifying way” just forget that a representation is always relative to a subject. The last part of the sentence only expresses your proud ignorance (sorry)...
The last part of the sentence only expresses your proud ignorance (sorry)...
What proud ignorance? I haven’t proudly asserted anything (I’m not among your downvoters). My point is, if you dispute this metaphysics you need to explain what the disadvantages of it are and you haven’t done that which is what is frustrating people.
I am not saying that it is meant in this way, but the following could be construed as a proud assertion:
is a useful and clarifying way of conceptualizing that universe relative to competing views and has no countervailing disadvantages relative to other ways of conceptualizing the universe.
I agree that representing the universe as an algorithm is a useful view. I am not sure what you mean by “it’s components as subroutines”, though. What are the components of the universe?
I thought you were only talking about representing the universe as algorithms, which seems like a good idea. You could also claim that “the universe is an algorithm”, but I find that statement to be too vague, what does ‘is’ mean in this sentence?
The components are you, me, the galaxy, socks, etc.
A subroutine in a program is a distinct part that can be executed repeatedly. Are you saying that the universe has a distinct part dedicated to dealing with socks? To me that sounds like the universe would somehow have to know what is and what is not a sock. (sorry for anthropomorphising the universe there.)
It is mainly the word “subroutine” that I have a problem with, not the universe-as-an-algorithm idea per se.
I thought you were only talking about representing the universe as algorithms, which seems like a good idea. You could also claim that “the universe is an algorithm”, but I find that statement to be too vague, what does ‘is’ mean in this sentence?
Quinean ontological pragmatism just paraphrases existential claims as “x figures in our best explanation of the universe”. So ‘is’ in the sentence “the universe is an algorithm” means roughly the same thing as ‘are’ in the sentence “there are atoms in the universe”.
Are you saying that the universe has a distinct part dedicated to dealing with socks? To me that sounds like the universe would somehow have to know what is and what is not a sock. (sorry for anthropomorphising the universe there.) It is mainly the word “subroutine” that I have a problem with, not the universe-as-an-algorithm idea per se.
I see what you’re saying and on reflection it might be a dangerously misleading thing to say. The best candidate algorithm would not have such subroutines, however more complex but functional identical algorithms would.
I prefer this formulation, because you emphasize on the representational aspect. Now a representation (a conceptualization) requires someone that conceptualize/represents things. I think that this “useful and clarifying way” just forget that a representation is always relative to a subject. The last part of the sentence only expresses your proud ignorance (sorry)...
What proud ignorance? I haven’t proudly asserted anything (I’m not among your downvoters). My point is, if you dispute this metaphysics you need to explain what the disadvantages of it are and you haven’t done that which is what is frustrating people.
I am not saying that it is meant in this way, but the following could be construed as a proud assertion:
I agree that representing the universe as an algorithm is a useful view. I am not sure what you mean by “it’s components as subroutines”, though. What are the components of the universe?
Re: the first part, that’s just what it means to assert that “the universe is an algorithm”.
The components are you, me, the galaxy, socks, etc.
I thought you were only talking about representing the universe as algorithms, which seems like a good idea. You could also claim that “the universe is an algorithm”, but I find that statement to be too vague, what does ‘is’ mean in this sentence?
Quinean ontological pragmatism just paraphrases existential claims as “x figures in our best explanation of the universe”. So ‘is’ in the sentence “the universe is an algorithm” means roughly the same thing as ‘are’ in the sentence “there are atoms in the universe”.
I see what you’re saying and on reflection it might be a dangerously misleading thing to say. The best candidate algorithm would not have such subroutines, however more complex but functional identical algorithms would.