Evidence suggests that the universe is composed of qualia. The ability to build a mathematical model that fits our scientific measurements (= a probabilistic description of the correlations between qualia) does not remotely suggest that the universe is an algorithm.
It may not suggest this to your satisfaction but it certainly suggests it remotely (and the mathematical model involves counterfactual dependencies of qualia, not just correlations). What does it mean to say that the universe is composed of qualia? That sounds like an obvious confusion between representation and reality.
Well my opinion is that the confusion between representation and reality is on your side.
Indeed, a scientific model is a representation of reality—not reality. It can be found inside books or learned at school, it is interpreted. On the contrary, qualia are not represented but directly experienced. They are real.
Not at all. What you call “qualia” could be the combination of a mental symbol, the connections and associations this symbol has and various abstract entities. When you experience experiencing such a “quale” the actual symbol might or might not be replaced with a symbol for the symbol, possibly using a set of neural machinery overlapping with the set for the actual symbol (so you can remember or imagine things without causing all of the involuntary reactions the actual experience causes)
I define qualia as the elements of my subjective experience.
“That sounds obvious” was an euphemism. It’s more than obvious that qualia are real, it’s given, it is the only truth that does not need to be proven.
No, an algorithm can exist inside another algorithm as a regularity, and evidence suggests that the universe itself is an algorithm.
No, evidence does no suggest that the universe is an algorithm. This is perfectly meaningless.
You need to actually explain your point and not just keep repeating it.
Evidence suggests that the universe is composed of qualia. The ability to build a mathematical model that fits our scientific measurements (= a probabilistic description of the correlations between qualia) does not remotely suggest that the universe is an algorithm.
It may not suggest this to your satisfaction but it certainly suggests it remotely (and the mathematical model involves counterfactual dependencies of qualia, not just correlations). What does it mean to say that the universe is composed of qualia? That sounds like an obvious confusion between representation and reality.
Well my opinion is that the confusion between representation and reality is on your side.
Indeed, a scientific model is a representation of reality—not reality. It can be found inside books or learned at school, it is interpreted. On the contrary, qualia are not represented but directly experienced. They are real.
That sounds obvious. No?
Not at all. What you call “qualia” could be the combination of a mental symbol, the connections and associations this symbol has and various abstract entities. When you experience experiencing such a “quale” the actual symbol might or might not be replaced with a symbol for the symbol, possibly using a set of neural machinery overlapping with the set for the actual symbol (so you can remember or imagine things without causing all of the involuntary reactions the actual experience causes)
I define qualia as the elements of my subjective experience. “That sounds obvious” was an euphemism. It’s more than obvious that qualia are real, it’s given, it is the only truth that does not need to be proven.
Do you have some links to this evidence, or studies that come to this conclusion?