This is kinda like the “liquid democracy” software, but with delegation being automatic instead of, say, thoughtful. I like the idea of seeing only some people’s upvotes, but I want to consciously and explicitly choose those people. Not by subscribing to their posts, and definitely not by upvoting something they’ve written.
I could imagine a toggle-switch next to the upvote counter, labeled “upvotes you trust, only” or something, along with a little link to go whitelist users into your trust-graph.
A related-but-not-the-same idea, would be to add a lot of different special upvotes to posts and comments. I think the max (before it becomes dumb) is like 5-6. We have “normal upvotes” and “agree/disagree” (but only on comments, for some reason???). If we replaced “normal upvotes” with another axis, we’d get 4-5 new axes to play with.
Axes might include “I think people outside our community should hear this”, “I think this is novel in a useful way”, “I personally made life-changing decisions based on this article, and now N years later I feel positive/negative about them” (this one should be locked behind a timer of some sort), “I predict this article will help me with decisions” (see previous), “this post’s existence decreased X- (or S-) risks”, “number of markets that linked this post on Manifold”, “I liked the emotional vibe (or writing style or...) of this post”, the aforementioned whitelist-eigenkarma, etc.
The upvote numbers would all be equally-sized (small), and arranged in a cute ring, kinda like how some RPGs/cardgames display stats. Maybe the user could choose one from the ring as their “default score shown” (which would also inform what posts are shown to them).
As a community acutely aware of platform dynamics, we should really be doing a better job of this.
Half the “inherent platform problems karma upvotes reddit digg dynamics doom” may be surprisingly solvable with UI tweaks. Especially UI that doesn’t do certain things by default. (E.g. you only see “one karma number” if you opt-in and pick which karma-axis you want; you only see “eigenkarma” based people you’ve explicitly whitelisted; etc.).
This is kinda like the “liquid democracy” software, but with delegation being automatic instead of, say, thoughtful. I like the idea of seeing only some people’s upvotes, but I want to consciously and explicitly choose those people. Not by subscribing to their posts, and definitely not by upvoting something they’ve written.
I could imagine a toggle-switch next to the upvote counter, labeled “upvotes you trust, only” or something, along with a little link to go whitelist users into your trust-graph.
A related-but-not-the-same idea, would be to add a lot of different special upvotes to posts and comments. I think the max (before it becomes dumb) is like 5-6. We have “normal upvotes” and “agree/disagree” (but only on comments, for some reason???). If we replaced “normal upvotes” with another axis, we’d get 4-5 new axes to play with.
Axes might include “I think people outside our community should hear this”, “I think this is novel in a useful way”, “I personally made life-changing decisions based on this article, and now N years later I feel positive/negative about them” (this one should be locked behind a timer of some sort), “I predict this article will help me with decisions” (see previous), “this post’s existence decreased X- (or S-) risks”, “number of markets that linked this post on Manifold”, “I liked the emotional vibe (or writing style or...) of this post”, the aforementioned whitelist-eigenkarma, etc.
The upvote numbers would all be equally-sized (small), and arranged in a cute ring, kinda like how some RPGs/cardgames display stats. Maybe the user could choose one from the ring as their “default score shown” (which would also inform what posts are shown to them).
As a community acutely aware of platform dynamics, we should really be doing a better job of this.
Half the “inherent platform problems karma upvotes reddit digg dynamics doom” may be surprisingly solvable with UI tweaks. Especially UI that doesn’t do certain things by default. (E.g. you only see “one karma number” if you opt-in and pick which karma-axis you want; you only see “eigenkarma” based people you’ve explicitly whitelisted; etc.).