If you post your second scenario as a challenge, I’m quite sure people would come up with several plausible ways for the AI to send a message out. At which point it’s game over, given how hackable people’s minds are.
I would be very interested to see such a challenge, although I would probably spend longer designing the scenario first.
My point is that there’s no reason to assume every possible box can be escaped. Of course, all the boxes we can get cool toys out of the AI can escape from, but still.
I think success would be indistinguishable from a rock, since you can never again interact with the AI via any channel. Removing it from your light cone, for instance. And praying that FTL is in fact impossible...
Actually, I do seem to have underestimated the difficulty here.
OK, in a nuclear submarine (because why not) floating in water, surrounded on all six sides by concrete (as thick as you like,) on a planet without native life or colonists (I suggest one of the more useless gas-giant moons.) And it’s running on regular off-the-shelf technology, so no nanites or quantum magic. It can probably blow up the sub, but then a) it’s dead and b) no-one cares.
If you post your second scenario as a challenge, I’m quite sure people would come up with several plausible ways for the AI to send a message out. At which point it’s game over, given how hackable people’s minds are.
I would be very interested to see such a challenge, although I would probably spend longer designing the scenario first.
My point is that there’s no reason to assume every possible box can be escaped. Of course, all the boxes we can get cool toys out of the AI can escape from, but still.
Once you think you’ve designed an AI-proof box, feel free to share.
I think success would be indistinguishable from a rock, since you can never again interact with the AI via any channel. Removing it from your light cone, for instance. And praying that FTL is in fact impossible...
Actually, I do seem to have underestimated the difficulty here.
OK, in a nuclear submarine (because why not) floating in water, surrounded on all six sides by concrete (as thick as you like,) on a planet without native life or colonists (I suggest one of the more useless gas-giant moons.) And it’s running on regular off-the-shelf technology, so no nanites or quantum magic. It can probably blow up the sub, but then a) it’s dead and b) no-one cares.
Oh, and the concrete is lead-lined.
Throw the AI down the well!