If the alternative to your consequentialist plan is an all-out thermonuclear war between the USSR and USA within months which will end civilization with the deaths of hundreds of millions and perhaps billions of people, it doesn’t particularly need a ‘damn high chance of succeeding’. How many nukes were targeted at Manhattan Times Square under the Russian equivalent of their SIOP? Probably >1...
I don’t see a point in focusing on Rorschach’s journal in the end if not to suggest that, as the peak of dramatic irony
It certainly is ironic, but as I said, to emphasize the powerlessness and futility of the ‘truth and justice and the American Way’, as Rorschach worships the naive superhero ideals. Who watches the watchmen? No one.
When all its work is done, the lie shall rot;
The truth is great, and shall prevail,
When none cares whether it prevail or not.
The thing is that this kind of false flag plan is fragile; it doesn’t take much to find out it’s actually fake, which ends up accomplishing the exact opposite effect.
Not really? Can you name three examples of false flags where they accomplished their initial political goals and triggered the intended war or other major event, but then were exposed, and everyone went ‘oh my gosh, we were tricked! it wasn’t true!’ and immediately undid everything they had already done? I can’t.
False flags generally only fail if exposed early on before anything can happen, while there is still a public ‘choice’ in the matter. (The Russian false flags in the runup to Ukraine, for example—minimal propaganda/political effect because exposed so quickly, so Putin invaded ‘naked’.) History is filled with false flags which were exposed not terribly long after, to no real effect. The Reichstag Fire, the Manchurian Incident, the Gulf of Tonkin incident… (The Maine, WWI ‘German atrocities in Belgium’...) Sure, they got exposed, but the Nazis were still in power, Imperial Japan remained invaded, the Vietnam War remained the Vietnam War, etc.
I mean, there’s a big difference between a false flag to cause a war, and a false flag to prevent one. If you successfully started a war, after a while people have given each other plenty of reasons for hate, and removing the casus belli doesn’t do much. If you successfully averted one, the hatred will only be rekindled tenfold upon discovering you’ve all been duped.
If the alternative to your consequentialist plan is an all-out thermonuclear war between the USSR and USA within months which will end civilization with the deaths of hundreds of millions and perhaps billions of people, it doesn’t particularly need a ‘damn high chance of succeeding’. How many nukes were targeted at Manhattan Times Square under the Russian equivalent of their SIOP? Probably >1...
It certainly is ironic, but as I said, to emphasize the powerlessness and futility of the ‘truth and justice and the American Way’, as Rorschach worships the naive superhero ideals. Who watches the watchmen? No one.
Not really? Can you name three examples of false flags where they accomplished their initial political goals and triggered the intended war or other major event, but then were exposed, and everyone went ‘oh my gosh, we were tricked! it wasn’t true!’ and immediately undid everything they had already done? I can’t.
False flags generally only fail if exposed early on before anything can happen, while there is still a public ‘choice’ in the matter. (The Russian false flags in the runup to Ukraine, for example—minimal propaganda/political effect because exposed so quickly, so Putin invaded ‘naked’.) History is filled with false flags which were exposed not terribly long after, to no real effect. The Reichstag Fire, the Manchurian Incident, the Gulf of Tonkin incident… (The Maine, WWI ‘German atrocities in Belgium’...) Sure, they got exposed, but the Nazis were still in power, Imperial Japan remained invaded, the Vietnam War remained the Vietnam War, etc.
I mean, there’s a big difference between a false flag to cause a war, and a false flag to prevent one. If you successfully started a war, after a while people have given each other plenty of reasons for hate, and removing the casus belli doesn’t do much. If you successfully averted one, the hatred will only be rekindled tenfold upon discovering you’ve all been duped.