Exactly :-) Or to be less obtuse framster isn’t supposed to mean anything in this context, hence how the sentence is an example of words being wrong.
Also welcome to less wrong.
But this word do has a meaning, at least Google Translator tells me that in Norwegian it means “the residue”. If you want meaningless word, the example should be like this “Socrates is a camipoundling”. But “Socrates is a framster” sounds like “Socrates is an abasic”, the sentence puts the subject in some weird category of objects.
To explain even further, it could be seen as a demonstration of wrong usage of categorization and labels, where even if framster did have a meaning in the mental model of the speaker, it is completely arbitrary and there is no way to communicate this meaning effectively.
And then, even if it were communicated properly somehow, the question would be meaningless and one would want to know what hidden real question was actually behind it; the speaker having created the term framster from nothing, the question of whether Socrates is one or not is literally to be answered by definition.
Thus, the whole thing could (and really should) resolve instantly to a different question, e.g.: “Does Socrates have a large influence on the political ideals of local youths?”
Exactly :-) Or to be less obtuse framster isn’t supposed to mean anything in this context, hence how the sentence is an example of words being wrong. Also welcome to less wrong.
But this word do has a meaning, at least Google Translator tells me that in Norwegian it means “the residue”. If you want meaningless word, the example should be like this “Socrates is a camipoundling”. But “Socrates is a framster” sounds like “Socrates is an abasic”, the sentence puts the subject in some weird category of objects.
Coincidence?
To explain even further, it could be seen as a demonstration of wrong usage of categorization and labels, where even if framster did have a meaning in the mental model of the speaker, it is completely arbitrary and there is no way to communicate this meaning effectively.
And then, even if it were communicated properly somehow, the question would be meaningless and one would want to know what hidden real question was actually behind it; the speaker having created the term framster from nothing, the question of whether Socrates is one or not is literally to be answered by definition.
Thus, the whole thing could (and really should) resolve instantly to a different question, e.g.: “Does Socrates have a large influence on the political ideals of local youths?”