Both numbers serve as an explanation for why tubes crack. I never did any visualization about it. (Its not that uncommon that people have inconsistent beliefs.)
Iirc I read that fact in the Mickey Mouse magazine at the appropriate age, but never tried it myself.
Since reading about the memory bias I am deeply afraid to have false or corrupted memories, while also wanting to experience such an effect.
Finding minor mistakes in my knowledge on physics is similarly disturbing. The content of the example itself doesn’t really change anything about my life.
But i am left wondering how many other mistakes I carry around.
Do you have any scientific/engineering training? A habit I note that people with such training tend to develop is to do a little mental arithmetic when confronted with some new numerical ‘fact’ and do some basic sanity checking against their existing beliefs. I often find when I am reading a news story that I notice some inconsistency in the numbers presented (something as simple as percentages for supposedly mutually exclusive things adding up to more than 100 for example) that I am amazed slipped past both the writer and the editor. The fact that most journalists lack any real scientific or engineering training is probably the reason for this. This ice ‘fact’ should have been immediately obviously wrong to someone applying this habit.
It’s perfectly understandable if this is just one of those things you picked up as a child and never had any cause to examine but it is indicative of a common failing and I would suggest that as a rule developing this ‘engineering mindset’ is valuable for any aspiring rationalist regardless of whether their job involves the routine application of such habits.
I am in the finial stages of becoming a computer scientist so: ‘no’.
In school I had physics as one of the depend subjects. I don’t think I saw any actual science training anywhere in my education. But that might be due to my own ignorance.
I still do not do math as often as I should, but sometimes.
What might have contributed to sustaining the mistake is my very early knowledge on the mistakes in intuitive judging of scaling volumes.
I should really milk this mistake for systematic causes....
In school I had physics as one of the depend subjects. I don’t think I saw any actual science training anywhere in my education. But that might be due to my own ignorance.
Unfortunately this is not something that is generally taught well in high school science classes even though it would be of much more practical use to most students than what they are actually being taught. It is conveyed better in university science courses that have a strong experimental component and in engineering courses.
It might not be too surprising that i totally agree.
It CS we dont do that much experimentation. And i have some beef with the lack of teaching good ways to actually make software.
I dont think the word ‘Version control’ was ever uttered somewhere.
Additional side note:
I am deeply troubled by the fact that all of the important things in my life happened by pure accident. I am generally happy with the development of ideas i hold true and dear so far, but wouldn’t have minded some short cuts.
There is no clearcut path that has me ending up in the place I would want to be in, and I do not see anything systematic I can do about that. I don’t ‘choose’ to become a rationalist or not, instead I get sucked in by interesting articles that carry ideas i find pleasant. But it would have been equally likely that i spent the weeks reading OB/LW initially on tvtropes instead.
I recently checked on an atheist board for good recommendations on rational thought. (Considering that my path down to science started with the reasoned atheism bit) and was shocked by the lack of anything that resembled even a reasonable recommendation.
Just because you weren’t aware of any conscious reasoning behind your choices doesn’t imply that they were fully accidents. The mind manages some very important things subconsciously, especially in emotionally charged domains where explicit awareness of motivations might hurt someone else’s feelings or one’s own self-image.
Both numbers serve as an explanation for why tubes crack. I never did any visualization about it. (Its not that uncommon that people have inconsistent beliefs.) Iirc I read that fact in the Mickey Mouse magazine at the appropriate age, but never tried it myself.
Since reading about the memory bias I am deeply afraid to have false or corrupted memories, while also wanting to experience such an effect. Finding minor mistakes in my knowledge on physics is similarly disturbing. The content of the example itself doesn’t really change anything about my life. But i am left wondering how many other mistakes I carry around.
Do you have any scientific/engineering training? A habit I note that people with such training tend to develop is to do a little mental arithmetic when confronted with some new numerical ‘fact’ and do some basic sanity checking against their existing beliefs. I often find when I am reading a news story that I notice some inconsistency in the numbers presented (something as simple as percentages for supposedly mutually exclusive things adding up to more than 100 for example) that I am amazed slipped past both the writer and the editor. The fact that most journalists lack any real scientific or engineering training is probably the reason for this. This ice ‘fact’ should have been immediately obviously wrong to someone applying this habit.
It’s perfectly understandable if this is just one of those things you picked up as a child and never had any cause to examine but it is indicative of a common failing and I would suggest that as a rule developing this ‘engineering mindset’ is valuable for any aspiring rationalist regardless of whether their job involves the routine application of such habits.
I am in the finial stages of becoming a computer scientist so: ‘no’.
In school I had physics as one of the depend subjects. I don’t think I saw any actual science training anywhere in my education. But that might be due to my own ignorance.
I still do not do math as often as I should, but sometimes.
What might have contributed to sustaining the mistake is my very early knowledge on the mistakes in intuitive judging of scaling volumes.
I should really milk this mistake for systematic causes....
Unfortunately this is not something that is generally taught well in high school science classes even though it would be of much more practical use to most students than what they are actually being taught. It is conveyed better in university science courses that have a strong experimental component and in engineering courses.
It might not be too surprising that i totally agree.
It CS we dont do that much experimentation. And i have some beef with the lack of teaching good ways to actually make software. I dont think the word ‘Version control’ was ever uttered somewhere.
Additional side note: I am deeply troubled by the fact that all of the important things in my life happened by pure accident. I am generally happy with the development of ideas i hold true and dear so far, but wouldn’t have minded some short cuts. There is no clearcut path that has me ending up in the place I would want to be in, and I do not see anything systematic I can do about that. I don’t ‘choose’ to become a rationalist or not, instead I get sucked in by interesting articles that carry ideas i find pleasant. But it would have been equally likely that i spent the weeks reading OB/LW initially on tvtropes instead. I recently checked on an atheist board for good recommendations on rational thought. (Considering that my path down to science started with the reasoned atheism bit) and was shocked by the lack of anything that resembled even a reasonable recommendation.
I don’t like accidental developments.
Just because you weren’t aware of any conscious reasoning behind your choices doesn’t imply that they were fully accidents. The mind manages some very important things subconsciously, especially in emotionally charged domains where explicit awareness of motivations might hurt someone else’s feelings or one’s own self-image.
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