It might be slightly deceptive (and thus not worth doing), but what about changing “people” to “persons”? Those who think about animal welfare more liberally would recognize “persons” as referring to both humans and non-humans, while those who are more conservative that GWWC is trying to reach will just automatically assume it means “people”.
That’d be too deceptive—people would rightly feel you’d tricked them if they got the impression all money was going to alleviate human suffering. If GWWC were to go down this route (which I don’t think it should—better for CEA to leave that to EAA), then the word ‘others’ would be more appropriate, though still a little deceptive.
Remember that the pledge is not to give money to GWWC; it’s a pledge to give to effective charities in general. So those who want to focus on just human will be giving only to human-based charities, while those who give to animal welfare charities will have their money spent on animal welfare.
Although I agree the pledge wording would be perhaps too deceptive, I do not agree that anyone would ever feel tricked, since they still individually choose where to send their money. Conservatives would probably give to the human welfare orgs GWWC recommends, while others would give to the animal welfare orgs EAA recommends.
Remember that the pledge is not to give money to GWWC; it’s a pledge to give to effective charities in general.
It’s not; the whole message of GWWC is about the strong reasons we in the relatively wealthy west have to give significant portions of our income to cost-effective global poverty charities. I completely respect those who think we have even stronger reasons to donate to cost-effective charities focused on causes like animal welfare or x-risk, but GWWC is focused on global poverty (which does earn it more mainstream credibility than, say, EAA or SingInst).
You’re correct; I was confusing the 80k pledge with the GWWC pledge. I retract all previous comments made in this thread on this point. Sorry for being stubborn earlier without rechecking the source.
That’d be too deceptive—people would rightly feel you’d tricked them if they got the impression all money was going to alleviate human suffering. If GWWC were to go down this route (which I don’t think it should—better for CEA to leave that to EAA), then the word ‘others’ would be more appropriate, though still a little deceptive.
Remember that the pledge is not to give money to GWWC; it’s a pledge to give to effective charities in general. So those who want to focus on just human will be giving only to human-based charities, while those who give to animal welfare charities will have their money spent on animal welfare.
Although I agree the pledge wording would be perhaps too deceptive, I do not agree that anyone would ever feel tricked, since they still individually choose where to send their money. Conservatives would probably give to the human welfare orgs GWWC recommends, while others would give to the animal welfare orgs EAA recommends.
It’s not; the whole message of GWWC is about the strong reasons we in the relatively wealthy west have to give significant portions of our income to cost-effective global poverty charities. I completely respect those who think we have even stronger reasons to donate to cost-effective charities focused on causes like animal welfare or x-risk, but GWWC is focused on global poverty (which does earn it more mainstream credibility than, say, EAA or SingInst).
You’re correct; I was confusing the 80k pledge with the GWWC pledge. I retract all previous comments made in this thread on this point. Sorry for being stubborn earlier without rechecking the source.