Though not spoken in Prophecy bold. It would be consistent for the brothers to have heard a retelling of a prophecy from before their birth. You could further fit evidence to this theory and claim that the Perevells’ hearing of the prophecy caused great misfortune, and Dumbledore’s wariness at bringing Harry to the Hall of Prophecy stems from this incident.
Ah, I missed this, I think you’re correct (upvoting you and maltrhin). I suppose that my interpretation is the one EY is trying to trick unobservant readers such as myself into making.
I do still think there’s still some wiggle room for that interpretation though: Harry’s whole outburst about Trelawney’s “He’s coming!” prophecy, where he said it couldn’t possibly be about him because he’s already arrived, would seem to indicate that EY is willing to use prophecies whose proper interpretation is not-quite-literal.
Or maybe Harry was right, and “he” in the “tear apart the very stars” prophecies refers to death; after all, “he is here!” happened as soon as Hermione died, so death had indeed arrived at Hogwarts.
It occurred long enough afterwards for Quirrell to realize, stop casting Fiendfyre, stop moving, land the broom, and then think for a small time. It wasn’t the same instant.
‘Shall be’ refers to a change of future state, so it can’t be about the way things are now.
Agreed, but this prediction could be older than the Hallows and their creators.
Unlikely given it was “spoken in the presence of the three Peverell brothers”.
Though not spoken in Prophecy bold. It would be consistent for the brothers to have heard a retelling of a prophecy from before their birth. You could further fit evidence to this theory and claim that the Perevells’ hearing of the prophecy caused great misfortune, and Dumbledore’s wariness at bringing Harry to the Hall of Prophecy stems from this incident.
It would be a little too much, I think, for the omniscient narrator to “make a game of lying with truths”.
Ah, I missed this, I think you’re correct (upvoting you and maltrhin). I suppose that my interpretation is the one EY is trying to trick unobservant readers such as myself into making.
I do still think there’s still some wiggle room for that interpretation though: Harry’s whole outburst about Trelawney’s “He’s coming!” prophecy, where he said it couldn’t possibly be about him because he’s already arrived, would seem to indicate that EY is willing to use prophecies whose proper interpretation is not-quite-literal.
Or maybe Harry was right, and “he” in the “tear apart the very stars” prophecies refers to death; after all, “he is here!” happened as soon as Hermione died, so death had indeed arrived at Hogwarts.
It occurred long enough afterwards for Quirrell to realize, stop casting Fiendfyre, stop moving, land the broom, and then think for a small time. It wasn’t the same instant.